Have Google Play Music, will be switching to Apple Music. The YT droning every time I fire it up is too much, and it seems like the migration doesn’t work either.
Why do you do this to yourselves, google employees on HN?
Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away
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#132YT Music sucks and I just cancelled it yesterday (signed up for Google Play Music was was great).
Google Play Music has the best recommendation tech.
YT Music (and Spotify) have very poor recommendation tech.
Examples:
Spotify Playlist "Morning Pickup"
First song is someone depressed they know they should break up but can't yet do it. Second song is about someone longing for their ex while in their current relationship. Maybe I interpreted this wrong. I assumed "Morning Pickup" was supposed to be music played to "pick me up", make me ready for the day, in other words, happy or inspiring music. Instead it could have just meant music promoted this morning.
Spotify: Prince (Radio)
Spotify plays rap. AFAIK that's a racist suggestion. Prince had nothing to do with rap. The only connection is that he's African American.
Youtube Music: Song "Fuck you till your Groove" by Jill Jones (radio)
Youtube plays "Such a Shame" by Talk Talk and "All Night Long" by Lionel Richie as suggested followup songs!?! WTFBBQ!!
Youtube Music: Swingrowers (Radio) (this is a Swing or Electro-Swing group)
Youtube plays "Bliss on Mushrooms" by Infected Mushroom
Youtube Music: Prince (Radio)
Youtube plays "I Wanna Dance with Somebody" by Whitney Houston, "Inspector Horse" by Todd Terge, A bunch of Micheal Jackson, "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" by Santa Esmeralda, "Heart of Glass" by Blondie. Those all of next to nothing to do with Prince.
Youtube Music: Depeche Mode (Radio)
Youtube plays "Call on Me" by Eric Prydz
Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
(Googler, opinions are my own) Agreed that it is annoying, but its interesting to look back at how we got here. Google Play Music (GPM) launched in 2011. To get music on here, I'm guessing that team had to sign contracts with the various publishers and record studios. The onboarding and licensing terms of those were likely entirely around this music streaming service. Then you have Youtube. It's been a video hub for…
I just read that YTM has only 256 bit AAC just like YouTube. Going down in audio quality is a step in the wrong direction. There's just no point in installing 5G in so many countries when the encoding bit rates are going down for services.
Bitrate isn't everything in audio — MP3 (which Google Play Music uses) is a much older format compared to AAC.
I like Hydrogen Audio for theory and comparisons: https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Hydrogenaudio_Li...
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#134Google Play Music wasn't very popular, but it was surprisingly good. YouTube Music is ok, but it lacks that quality without a name and has many small glitches that make it much less pleasant to use.
> YouTube Music is ok No, its quite bad. In addition to being flat-out buggy (I've had it multiple times in the last week just decide to switch to a playlist it invented rather than the one it was directed to play), it doesn't support basic music playing functionality like song or playlist repeat, and (surprisingly) its Google Assistant integration is awful, forcing you to use casting from a different device for basi…
The playlists behavior (once they finally let us import them) isn't great, so I've been using the "Your Mix" feature a lot. It's pretty good, but there are a couple songs I've Thumbs Downed that keep popping up in my mix anyway.
Bad UI + incredibly simple, stupid things like that drive me crazy. Google Music wasn't great, but it was far better tha YouTube Music.
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#135And FWIW, the migration doesn't work. The "thumbs up" playlist goes into YT Music "Liked music" which includes all sorts of other YouTube "music-ish" videos that we have liked over the years and the order is all jacked up, plus mixed with all that other stuff. So your "Liked Music" is now, not what you intended. The migration was super botched by the product team because of this.
>The migration was super botched by the product team because of this. I honestly don't know why Google's Product Team has any positive reputation at this point. I can count on one hand the number of positive launches from that company that didn't involve buying another company or product. It's almost as if they're so good at playing politics and "the game" that people can't see the actual track record is shit.
Assuming there's one Product Team at Google? ha!
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#136How is it that Google create/rebrand/close so many music and chat services over the years. While Apple have a single message service (iMessage) and a single music service (Apple Music) that have been consistently branded with constant growth and show no signs of being shut down? As a consumer I have no idea what’s going on with some areas of Google’s products. It’s a major turn off.
I am a personal gsuite user, and migrated multiple companies to gsuite over 10 years now (?). That means I tried to force everyone on to hangouts / chat / meet / duo / allo / etc etc. It's not just a turn off in a personal space. It's at the point I have given up on trying to get folks to standardize on google's products. Google just did a slack competitor, but to click the screen share button (very common in slack t…
Ha, I remember my days trying to get friends and family to use Google services only to have them shutdown. No more. I tell them to stay far, far away from anything Google.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Curious, why Tidal?
I tried Deezer, Spotify, Amazon, and Tidal in one day. Tidal had the best mix of predictable intuitive behavior, easy to use UI, and as a bonus it seemed to have the best sound quality. Though this may not be all that obvious in most setups, it just so happens that one of the persistent relics of a bygone era in my life, when I had more money than brains, is an underappreciated (I mean our TV is hooked to it and play…
I use Plex to store my TV, Movies, and Music. One nice feature is that you can have your own music AND integrate Tidal to augment your music collection. It works pretty well.
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#138Is there a self hosted alternative to Google Play Music? The software was an excellent free service- just not very good at making money for Google. A lot of us with music collections are running NAS- surely something can fill the void. Right now I'm using MusicBee for playing flac locally, Spotify for streaming on the go.
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#139YouTube Music is sucks, but it's still precious service that support upload locker feature. The other one is Apple Music, I'll go for it if I used only iPhone/iPad/Mac.
Apple Music does have Android [1] and web [2] apps.
[1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.andr...
Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away
#140How is it that Google create/rebrand/close so many music and chat services over the years. While Apple have a single message service (iMessage) and a single music service (Apple Music) that have been consistently branded with constant growth and show no signs of being shut down? As a consumer I have no idea what’s going on with some areas of Google’s products. It’s a major turn off.
(Googler, opinions are my own) Agreed that it is annoying, but its interesting to look back at how we got here. Google Play Music (GPM) launched in 2011. To get music on here, I'm guessing that team had to sign contracts with the various publishers and record studios. The onboarding and licensing terms of those were likely entirely around this music streaming service. Then you have Youtube. It's been a video hub for…
> but its interesting to look back at how we got here.
Oh, please, I worked at Google as well, and this is typical Google’s inability to have attention span and coherent leadership for anything longer than 6 months. One VP did one thing, then another one another, then it turned out that it’s stupid and inconsistent. As. with. any. other. non-core product! Basically Google’s top leadership doesn’t care enough to impose coherent strategy across different divisions, and thing like this happen all the time (Android/Chrome OS, Chat/GVC/Hangouts/Allo/Duo/RCS/Meet, Gmail/Inbox, Nest/Google Home, and so on).