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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…

Without the existence of youtube-dl, youtube itself is necessarily commuting copyright infringement over the a good portion of the CC-By-SA works uploaded to youtube. (not all of them, since the uploader grants youtube a license... but if the work has copyright holders who aren't the uploader, it applies)

I think in that case the copyright infringement would be the uploader rather than YouTube, but IANAL.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are misunderstanding the legal argument. The DMCA Section 1201 specifically prohibits (among other things) technology that "is marketed ... for use in circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title." The example in the README is evidence of this. The argument is that youtube-dl is primarily used for breaking DRM not just that it could be used fo…

It definitely was very sloppy of them to show examples on actual copyrighted material. Couldn't they have simply put examples of public domain content?

JFYI i was wrong. There were no such examples in the README or “marketing material,” there was URLs and metadata in a few unit tests.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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It's outrageous indeed that GH/MS is complying. It's not that far from targeting wget or curl, were it not for the widespread use of them in industry.

IANAL, but as far as I know GitHub has to comply with DMCA requests. Otherwise, they would lose their safe harbor protection and become liable for all distributions of copyrighted content through their service. However, GitHub is also required to reinstate `youtube-dl` if the creator files a DMCA counter-notice.

“For all distributions of copyrighted content through their service”

I don’t think that’s true? I think that only extends to this particular DMCA. Obviously it wouldn’t extend to eg me claiming Ruby on Rails is copyright infringement.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't it be trivially reinstated then by removing any references to copyrighted content? youtube-dl has plenty of legitimate uses beyond just copyright infringement.

They can't fully un-ring that bell. The RIAA will always be able to argue infringement was the purpose since they used copyrighted examples.

Argue in front of whom exactly? Because thats ONE of the big problems with DMCA.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Why stop with torrent clients? They should ban all browsers, because they CAN be used to download copyrighted materials!

Browsers? We need to ban radios with tape decks and TVs with VCRs! The audio cassette and the VHS are bringing the downfall of the music industry with how easily they can be used to create unauthorized copies! Oh wait.

i love how dead kennedys literally left one of their cassette tapes sides blank and printed "Home taping is killing record industry profits! We left this side blank so you can help." on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust,_Inc.#Artwork_...

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Lesson learned: always use Creative Commons licensed data to demo your multimedia tools. Else people get the wrong idea. Some examples for youtube-dl might be: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqz-KE-bpKQ Big buck bunny * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ Sintel * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhWc3b3KhnY Spring In fact, youtube actually allows you to filter by CC, so there's never a reason not to!

Hi Kim!

They couldn't have done this. The 'infringing' links were in the test suite and were specifically tests for content from particular sources which had special links which required different techniques to download them.

The test would not have been accomplished if they were pointed at links which didn't have the behaviour that was being tested.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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It's outrageous indeed that GH/MS is complying. It's not that far from targeting wget or curl, were it not for the widespread use of them in industry.

> It's outrageous indeed that GH/MS is complying. Not really. They're legally required to do so. The DMCA notice (despite what someone suggests downthread) is unfortunately quite properly served. Even if it is flat-out wrong, GH/MS has no reason (and likely no resources) to investigate whether or not that's the case. And if they did, and got it wrong, they'd lose their safe harbor status and be liable for damages. If…

> which has the main purpose of downloading clean copies of YT videos

Among many other sites and services.

> against the wishes of the content creators

I'm a content creator on YouTube and I'd be honored if anyone chooses to save my videos on disk. The tool has its legitimate uses and abuses.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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post #528

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without the existence of youtube-dl, youtube itself is necessarily commuting copyright infringement over the a good portion of the CC-By-SA works uploaded to youtube. (not all of them, since the uploader grants youtube a license... but if the work has copyright holders who aren't the uploader, it applies)

I think in that case the copyright infringement would be the uploader rather than YouTube, but IANAL.

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