> The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it. Using legal tactics to stop text on the Internet seems folly to me.
Derouting obsolete IPV4 blocks is as technical as it gets.
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Internet trolls use the higher bar for entry of tech focused platforms to harass people who are competing in the desperate political struggle for approval that is mainstream social media. Conversely, this mainstream culture is also the source of the visceral disgust some people have for lawyers, journalists, activists, and other people who affect being underdogs so they aren't held to the standards of honest people…
The private sphere is where the most severe abuse happens.
There's a fair bit of back and forth on it, here's wiki to start it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_sphere
Most of the criticisms of the ideas of the public/private sphere root back to Aristotle, and unfortunately, Google has elevated more recent, post Marx criticisms of it (imo) since setting it up as an evil is the basis of popular current cultural theory, but it's a foundational concept that predates the view of history as progress.
The idea of the private has more relevance today now that it's so rare.
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#153Of course everybody knows the right way to convince conspiracy theorists that they're wrong is to go after them. I don't see what's wrong with having internet trash bins. At least the trash is in a know location, it doesn't spill everywhere. I'm not from the US, the only mentions of those sites I have ever encountered was journalists making a few articles about them.
I think this line of thinking is absolutely correct when conspiracy theories are fringe or harmless. You don't believe we landed on the moon? Okay, buddy, have a nice day. Occasionally, though, conspiracy theorists escape the harmless fringe and become actively harmful to society, which is what many of us believe is happening in the USA today. A racist conspiracy theory that posited, contrary to all evidence, that ou…
> …drink the blood of children
This is an echo of another conspiracy theory, that culminated in its heyday into a world war.
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If I'm not mistaken the NZ killer was on 8chan? It's the same argument with serial killer movies (at the risk of showing my age there was a strong controversy with "Natural Born Killers" at the time): you don't kill people because you chatted on the internet or watched a movie. You kill people because you had it in you. The things you were exposed before might color your act but that's it.
> It's the same argument with serial killer movies Hollywood is infamous for misunderstanding psychology. At best, Hollywood has outdated notions of psychology (favoring long outdated ideas like Freud, because such ideas are exciting). Hollywood sells movies, not understanding. What we're discovering today is that there's a "pathway to radicalization". People are NOT born radical, they realign themselves as radical o…
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That's not actually true. In fact, Google delisted 8Chan due to child abuse content.
Many tech companies ban things for political reasons and provide these types of explanations as cover. Similar to how Reddit banned the_donald because of supposed anti-cop violent threats on the subreddit which is of course completely and utterly absurd.
Do you have a source for that claim?
Reddit admins were quite vocal about the many noncop reasons for banning TD
https://www.dailywire.com/news/reddit-bans-the_donald-subred...
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#156I'm a conspiracy theorist, I'll admit it. Not the kind who spouts nonsense (at least I try not to), but who has spent a long time understanding the real big picture at a geopolitical and geostrategic level to the best of my limited ability. More on this later. These calls for censorship are dangerous in so many ways not being addressed. There are two primary issues at hand in my eyes though. One, that the censorship…
I don't see anything that's a conspiracy theory though. Like, the fact that there's corruption in the high levels of government that willfully enable war... Sounds like something Britta said on Community. The fact that there may be specific groups of long tenured employees in the State Department doing it isn't that noteworthy either. They work there. The way you've written and described your views, experiences, and…
Conspiracy has a legal definition. People are prosecuted for it quite frequently.
"An agreement between two or more people to commit an illegal act, along with an intent to achieve the agreement's goal."[1]
If the wars in the middle east, (I would say Iraq moreso than Afghanistan, as at least Afghanistan actually harbored Al Qaeda/Taliban), don't count as a textbook definition of conspiracy, I'm afraid nothing does. Indeed, I would even disagree with the statement about the DoS (a subsection of the government), their entire job is supposed to be diplomacy, not war, thats what DoD is for. This is why I strongly disagree with the now common knowledge among those in the realm, that intelligence agencies embed and use DoS as cover so frequently, as it undermines diplomatic initiatives heavily. As for dismissing something as "something Britta said on community", it isn't even worth addressing.
"What happened on 9/11 is that we didn't have a strategy, we didn't have bipartisan agreement, we didn't have American understanding of it, and we had instead a policy coup in this country, a coup, a policy coup. Some hard-nose people took over the direction of American policy and they never bothered to inform the rest of us. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, if you're an American you ought to be concerned about the strategy of the United States in this region. What is our aim? What is our purpose? Why are we there? Why are Americans dying in this region? That is the issue." - General Wesley Clark
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There's 9 hits for the hard-R N-word on 4chan's /pol/ board right now. >We don't see Gamergaters pushing their silly conspiracy theories today According to a 4chan archive site, there have been 4,845 mentions of "gamergate" this year alone. So that's absolutely false.
> According to a 4chan archive site, there have been 4,845 mentions of "gamergate" this year alone. So that's absolutely false. At the height of the Gamergate conspiracy, there were constant Doxxing and Swatting of game journalists. That behavior (knock on wood) seems to have stopped. MOOT publicly condemning the practice made a huge difference. It set lines in the sand, and people do trust their leaders. (And yes, 4…
*moot
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I'm not mistaken the NZ killer was on 8chan? It's the same argument with serial killer movies (at the risk of showing my age there was a strong controversy with "Natural Born Killers" at the time): you don't kill people because you chatted on the internet or watched a movie. You kill people because you had it in you. The things you were exposed before might color your act but that's it.
> It's the same argument with serial killer movies Hollywood is infamous for misunderstanding psychology. At best, Hollywood has outdated notions of psychology (favoring long outdated ideas like Freud, because such ideas are exciting). Hollywood sells movies, not understanding. What we're discovering today is that there's a "pathway to radicalization". People are NOT born radical, they realign themselves as radical o…
> What we're discovering today
We who? This was known at least as far back as since Scientology and Holocaust.
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I've been able to avoid it entirely. Can you point to a good primer on qanon? Not an opinion piece or a takedown or anything, just an explainer. The only thing I know is what I've heard from MSM, and that has been that there is a secret cabal of pedophiles, and many members occupy powerful positions.
You can read what the person or people who write as Q post ( http://qposts.online/ ), then you can read the is written about Qanon ( https://www.google.com/search?q=Qanon ). Warning, they live in different universes.
Thanks
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AIUI, the key part of QAnon is "the storm", the idea that some secretive group in the Trump administration is preparing some kind of mass indictments, possibly involving military tribunals, to bust all of the secret pedophiles. This is "the plan" that QAnon people implore us to "trust". No matter how bizarre and disconnected the happenings in various Government agencies seem, it's all supposedly part of "the plan" th…
>we'd all be pretty disturbed if it ever really came to light. It did, though. I would've expected more attention. Edit: so what, then? Did a massive sex trafficking ring that delivered underage girls to some of the world's most powerful people just get exposed? Did the head of it just die in a Manhattan jail. Was his partner just finally found after months on the lam? Or am I crazy?
What's already out there is disturbing enough, but I don't think even 10% of what's really going on has come to light yet. Ex - how did Epstein die in jail? No way that's a legit suicide IMO. Some very powerful people must have arranged that. To expend so much energy on that, there must be a lot of powerful people who have a lot to lose if he were to ever talk.
Who else might be out there involved in this? What sort of evidence is hidden away out there somewhere, waiting for somebody's dead man switch to flip? Exactly what is it that these people have been up to that they're so afraid of everybody finding out? I don't have any idea. Possibly it could be nothing, but I think there's way too many suspicious coincidences that look like somebody powerful pulling some strings for there to be nothing else there.
Also, voting on Q related stuff gets really weird sometimes. No sense worrying about it.