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LiveCode is a modern day HyperCard (2019)

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Re: LiveCode is a modern day HyperCard (2019)

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Post by mwcampbell »

soapdog wrote: post #2

Hey I'm the author of that page, AMA.

Since you work for LiveCode, do you know if there are any plans to implement platform accessibility APIs, so LiveCode (or at least applications built with it) can work with assistive technologies, such as screen readers for blind people? Besides being the right thing to do, that might unlock some sales to the educational market.

Re: LiveCode is a modern day HyperCard (2019)

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Post by paleogizmo »

In the spirit of HN contrarian comments, I'd say the closest thing spiritually to a modern-day HyperCard is PySimpleGUI: https://github.com/PySimpleGUI

Previously the closest thing to HyperCard was WinForms, which PSG borrows heavily from. PSG is probably the fastest way for anyone moderately familar with python to throw together an ugly-but-servicable GUI program and I reach for it when I'm in a hurry. The two tricks behind PSG are: 1. very concise and memorable GUI layout with only python code and 2. use of an event loop instead of handlers. All of this sounds pretty basic and obvious, but no one else does it this way.

Re: LiveCode is a modern day HyperCard (2019)

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Post by 627467 »

mwcampbell wrote: post #3
soapdog wrote: post #2

Hey I'm the author of that page, AMA.

Since you work for LiveCode, do you know if there are any plans to implement platform accessibility APIs, so LiveCode (or at least applications built with it) can work with assistive technologies, such as screen readers for blind people? Besides being the right thing to do, that might unlock some sales to the educational market.

That's a great question. Im interested in visual coding tools but, probably in my ignorance, I wonder how any of them work for keyboard and/or screen reader users.

Re: LiveCode is a modern day HyperCard (2019)

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Post by mwcampbell »

627467 wrote: post #8
mwcampbell wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you work for LiveCode, do you know if there are any plans to implement platform accessibility APIs, so LiveCode (or at least applications built with it) can work with assistive technologies, such as screen readers for blind people? Besides being the right thing to do, that might unlock some sales to the educational market.

That's a great question. Im interested in visual coding tools but, probably in my ignorance, I wonder how any of them work for keyboard and/or screen reader users.

To be clear, the problem isn't just the drag-and-drop nature of the development environment. The whole GUI toolkit is completely inaccessible with a screen reader.

Re: LiveCode is a modern day HyperCard (2019)

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Post by mordechai9000 »

paleogizmo wrote: post #5

In the spirit of HN contrarian comments, I'd say the closest thing spiritually to a modern-day HyperCard is PySimpleGUI: https://github.com/PySimpleGUI Previously the closest thing to HyperCard was WinForms, which PSG borrows heavily from. PSG is probably the fastest way for anyone moderately familar with python to throw together an ugly-but-servicable GUI program and I reach for it when I'm in a hurry. The two trick…

It's been awhile since I've messed with a GUI in python, so I did quick image search to see just how ugly it is. And it actually looks very serviceable. A bit utilitarian, perhaps, but not too bad. I was expecting much worse, like the old Tk dialogs. And judging by the variety of examples I found, it can be themed to some degree. My only problem - and what has driven me to use web apps in the past - is the difficulties in bundling and distributing python apps.
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