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How Satya Nadella turned Microsoft around

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Re: How Satya Nadella turned Microsoft around

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His cancer was the least deadly of the cancers and with treatment he would have lived much longer. My mom had stage one pancreatic cancer 4 years ago and she is still alive today and cancer free for over four years. So it is possible.

FWIW, Jobs was diagnosed in 2003, so he lived another 8 years after his initial diagnosis.

Which says to me that he was a good candidate for real treatment.

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Under Ballmer, MS dropped the ball on mobile. They had Windows CE, Windows on every desktop, and Xbox on the set top. And with all that, they couldn't put together a viable mobile product? They had the chance to make a holistic ecosystem that would span desktop, laptop, smartphone, tablet, TV, and everything in between. And they dropped the ball. Now we have to deal with a Duopoly between the largest advertiser and t…

No kidding... WinCE should have been a stripped down NT. Instead it was this 'other' thing that they drug along that was 'windows' but not quite 'windows' and a pain to dev for. They were stuck in this weird spot where they had to create a build system that took into account of every BOM every crappy cell phone the ODMs could come up with. Then married to cell phones that would forget everything you setup on the drop…

It’s an example of the company trying to avoid kneecapping the cash cow when experimenting. I really liked the Workpad z50, which was really the first netbook. Its windows CE runtime was light and useful, and booted instantly with execute-in-place. Its flaws were, in my opinion, entirely due to Microsoft not wanting to let CE become a viable alternative to NT. (That, and using a mask ROM instead of flash).

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I'm using Windows 10 because I want to run modern programs, but I still don't see the usability of the operating system to be as good that it was with Windows 7. If I go to settings, or open the start menu, I have latencies measured in seconds, even though I have a fast gaming laptop. As a comparision on my iPad most of the settings windows have about 0.2s rendering latency (some shorter, some longer), but in reality…

Yeah, I don't feel that Windows is meaningfully better than it's been in years, it just feels like the awful waterfall development is going to break it and introduce weird UI inconsistencies all the time and that's just the way it is. Gaming on Windows is almost more confusing than it's been due to all the things and settings you have to make sure are set up right.

Meanwhile, I'm finding that gaming on Linux is easier than ever (at least on the limited selection, older titles I tend to play), and I no longer need to keep a Windows partition for that purpose. I still have a Windows 10 PC around, but I'm not really sure why I keep it.

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> Every single thing he's credited for "turning around" was launched under Ballmer. That's nonsense. Ballmer kept Microsoft in the 90's style of doing business, but this didn't work so well in the 2000's. After Satya took over he embraced opensource. He allowed Linux into Azure, which is bold. He killed the Windows division, which is very bold. He made Windows free. He made Office free for devices with small screens.…

> After Satya took over he embraced opensource Yeah, no. article from 2012 https://www.wired.com/2012/01/meet-bill-gates/ . Adoption may have accelerated under Nadella, but this was the direction the company was headed. >He allowed Linux into Azure, which is bold. Azure was supporting Linux VMs in 2012. >He killed the Windows division, which is very bold. You say bold, I say stupid. Windows is still a big chunk of ea…

> You say bold, I say stupid. Windows is still a big chunk of earnings and all that Nadella/Panos have managed to do is piss off long-standing customers by producing a half-assed Windows 10 version every six months.

I don't know if you're joking or not. The "successes" prior to Satya were Windows 8 and Vista :)

Windows is much better now than it ever was.

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As far as Cook. There is no next iPhone. The iPhone was a once in a lifetime product. There were already 1 billion phones being sold a year when the iPhone was introduced - Jobs said he wanted to sell 10 million phones and capture 1% of the market. The smart phone (not the iPhone) has 70-80% penetration. What we call an electronic communication device that’s always connected may change, but there is no larger conceiv…

Humour me – if the iPad isn't innovative as it's simply a larger iPhone, how is the Watch innovative? Is it not simply a smaller iPhone with a strap? I recognize Apple's A series and S series chips are different, but both the chips and watch in general seem like incrementalism to me.

The iPad merely replicated the already known notebook and tablet workflow. The Apple watch originally tried to be a smaller iPhone (and failed at it), but Apple was smart and innovative enough to pivot to a new workflow which smartphones can't easily replicate.

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I'm using Windows 10 because I want to run modern programs, but I still don't see the usability of the operating system to be as good that it was with Windows 7. If I go to settings, or open the start menu, I have latencies measured in seconds, even though I have a fast gaming laptop. As a comparision on my iPad most of the settings windows have about 0.2s rendering latency (some shorter, some longer), but in reality…

Windows 10 search function is completely broken, it won't even find a program that's in start menu, not sure if it's because I disabled all the online functionality of search. If I want to find something online instead of my computer I use a browser. Thankfully there are great alternatives for the atrocity, such as Everything, it's mind-blowing how a third party program is orders of magnitude faster than native syste…

It was broken - very broken, so broken that you had to enter the exact text of the thing you wanted.

It was that way for years, but at some point recently they finally seem to have fixed it - I can now enter the start, end, or just part of anything I want to find, and it finds it! You know, the bare minimum you'd expect from a search function!

I'm actually a big fan of Windows 10, but it boggles the mind how long they left such a key part of the Windows experience in such a sorry state.

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The Windows phone was loved because it had excellent Nokia hardware. The software was not loved and the app store was lacking.

Owned one. It was a damn good phone, had a great UI that remains unsurpassed to this day, but it clearly came at least two years too late to gain the critical mass needed for a thriving ecosystem.

I loved the UX on it too, but the crappy locked-down web browser killed it for me.. I don't even use apps, but since I couldn't load Firefox with uBlock on there, and there weren't any single-purpose apps, it was really rough

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I'm using Windows 10 because I want to run modern programs, but I still don't see the usability of the operating system to be as good that it was with Windows 7. If I go to settings, or open the start menu, I have latencies measured in seconds, even though I have a fast gaming laptop. As a comparision on my iPad most of the settings windows have about 0.2s rendering latency (some shorter, some longer), but in reality…

I noticed a horrendous slowdown of the default image viewer. Double-clicking on a small JPEG file (less then 1MB) can take up to 20s to finally view. Got so bad, that I now have MS Paint as default image viewer. I kinda like the image viewer's ability to view other pictures in the same directory, but the performance and waiting time to view anything was just way too terrible.

Someone on HN recently said that was some kind of problem with the image viewer being. UWP app. Don't recall the details tho.

Definitely drives me nuts though - how hard is it to show a JPEG?!

Re: How Satya Nadella turned Microsoft around

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I'm using Windows 10 because I want to run modern programs, but I still don't see the usability of the operating system to be as good that it was with Windows 7. If I go to settings, or open the start menu, I have latencies measured in seconds, even though I have a fast gaming laptop. As a comparision on my iPad most of the settings windows have about 0.2s rendering latency (some shorter, some longer), but in reality…

I noticed a horrendous slowdown of the default image viewer. Double-clicking on a small JPEG file (less then 1MB) can take up to 20s to finally view. Got so bad, that I now have MS Paint as default image viewer. I kinda like the image viewer's ability to view other pictures in the same directory, but the performance and waiting time to view anything was just way too terrible.

I use a Windows 8.1 tablet for work and really like that while 8.1 has the same excruciatingly long load time for the default image viewer, the old one from 7 (or maybe going back to XP?) is still available to set as the default. As long as I avoid the fullscreen apps, I think I like 8.1 better than 10 for usability.

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> Another example of such uninspired CEO that keeps making good quarters but tarnishes his company advantages is Tim Cook. I can't wait for him to be replaced. Comments like this make zero sense to me. Apple might be better if Jobs was still alive. But without a time machine, and potentially better medicine, that's not an option. Under Cook Apple: - Increased profitability and market share massively. - Created the mo…

Beats + AirPods, the two most successful headphone brands in the world How are you working out "most successful"? Beats aren't rated particularly highly apart from by label-followers; while blinkeredness has always been a notable criticism of Apple product appraisal, it did in the past occasionally lead the field - that's not at all obvious with Beats etc.

> How are you working out "most successful"?

Sales. How else do you measure success of a consumer electronics product?

> Beats aren't rated particularly highly apart from by label-followers

While Beats haven't been highly rated by audiophiles, they are popular and sound quality and in particular Bluetooth performance has improved significantly under Apple.

AirPods... well they are AirPods. They are might well be the most universally loved product in Apple's product line right now. Maybe the most loved consumer electronics product on the market right now.

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