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You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by Shared404 »

jimmaswell wrote: post #209
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #195

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I tried to use gimp and I really wanted to like it, but I can’t. It’s clumsy and looks like death. I’d rather pay for something more polished.

I don't get this. I've used GIMP and Phptoshop and the UI differences are trivial.

> the UI differences are trivial.

That depends on which version you use. IIRC the version in the Ubuntu/*buntu repo's have a patch to bring the UI closer to PS, at least in appearance.

There are also some functions which you have to do differently in GIMP vs PS.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by failuser »

srtjstjsj wrote: post #120
savant_penguin wrote: post #54

Just swap "Adobe cs2" for a car so it gets a lot funnier >>Sir, you are no longer allowed to use your car >But I paid for it! It's my car! >>Our aging servers had to be retired >Can't you just turn off the checking so it won't cost you anything and I can keep using my car? >>No sir, without the checking people would start pirating the car > But you don't even sell this car anymore! So much so you don't even want to k…

This change only applies to people who want a replacement "car" after losing their 13+ year old "car". Cars only have replacement parts available for N years.

You can get replacement parts from a third party. What third party can you legally buy access to an activation server?

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by failuser »

esalman wrote: post #114

I am getting through grad school using photopea.com for all raster needs. For vector graphics I just use python- the figures are reproducible now in addition to my research results.

Inkscape is reasonable for grad school vector needs if you haven’t stumbled upon it yet.

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Post by efreak »

Animats wrote: post #160

I was, however, able to install Adobe/Macromedia Dreamweaver 8 on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS from the original install disks with the original serial numbers. On Windows 7, some update broke SFTP, and I had to give up on it on Windows. SFTP works fine under Wine. So I can maintain some old sites created with Dreamweaver.

I'm unaware of any version of windows ever having had support for SFTP

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by tonoto »

SomeHacker44 wrote: post #186
underwater wrote: post #176

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It's cheap for professional use, but it's very expensive for amateurs and occasional users. I was using Lightroom to manage my catalogue of photos. I'd open up Photoshop and Lightroom maybe a dozen times a year. It was nice to have them available but they were effectively costing me $20 each use. When Adobe products were an upfront payment I could choose to buy a product and keep it through multiple release cycles, w…

What did you switch to from Lightroom?

I switched from Lightroom subscriptionware to Capture One payment with one included update. Catalogue with 90k pictures, performance might be a tad slower than LR on my iMac 2017 but so far I am happy with the software when it comes to workflow of importing new photos.

Will never go back to Adobe's ransomware/subscriptions again. Just a happy amateur and in periods it could pass weeks/months between starting up the software.

Although, I do miss photoshop a bit but Gimp does the job "good enough" for me.

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Post by tonoto »

Bud wrote: post #177
perryizgr8 wrote: post #173

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I dug out my old Palm Visor Platinum (released in 2000) a few months ago. Works perfectly. I was even able to find a large collection of apps and transfer to it using the handspring sync program which runs ok in compatibility mode on Win10. It uses AAA cells so battery is never a problem. I really wish we could go back to standard replaceable batteries for phones and laptops :( Amazing what we can do if we don't arti…

There never were "standard replaceable batteries" for either phones, or laptops. Replaceable? Yes. Standard? Big, big huge no.

Define standard. Standard as in rechargeable Ni-MH battery size AA or AAA which were widespread available at that time? Then yes, Motorola, Alcatel (I believe Siemens had one too) could be operated on those batteries.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by Grakel »

mjrpes wrote: post #154
Grakel wrote: post #73

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Photopea.com is exactly like photoshop, it's free, web based or download!

This is pretty amazing, so glad you posted it. It has layer blending options and shadow/highlights, two feature I can't live without and are often missing in free editors. The menus are exactly like photoshop. And finally an API that lets you save/load PSD/images to and from cloud storage.

Yeah it's one guy's project, and he is a monster. Check out the reddit AMA if you get a chance.

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Post by pfranz »

henriquez wrote: post #98
egonschiele wrote: post #77

In the last month I've returned two pieces of Adobe software and canceled a yearly subscription. I've been seeing ads for the AI features in photoshop all over twitter this week. It's pretty clear what their business strategy is -- just keep working on the tech and assume people will buy their software because it's the only one with the hot tech thing. It's ironic that for a company that caters to designers, artists…

Speaking of UI, I’ve been using Photoshop since 1999 and it’s remarkable how little the UI has changed. Sure there are new panels and features, but the basic layout and most of the keyboard shortcuts are all the same. The consistency and familiarity is really nice but I’m sure they’ve sacrificed a ton of UX potential to keep old farts like me.

That's kind of the problem Photoshop has been painted into. As things were added they were kind of shoved into the spots in the UI that existed early on.

Old-timers have muscle memory, but it's hard for newcomers to hunt for things because it's not logically organized. The steep learning curve is there for newcomers, but since it's what everyone uses they learn it.

Throw enough other hurdles like subscriptions and people will start to switch. It will be hard to dig themselves back out because changing their UI alienates old-timers.

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Post by tomduncalf »

Cullinet wrote: post #170
Lammy wrote: post #49

There are special no-activation-required versions of the entire CS2 and CS3 product line! Adobe killed the product activation servers for CS2 products in 2013, and for CS3 products in 2017. For CS2, they offered Activation-free replacement installers and generic serial numbers on their support page. This resulted in a bunch of press[0] about it being a /!\ omg completely free Creative Suite /!\, so for CS3's 2017 shu…

Oh dear, thank you so very much genuinely for your excellent history. Unfortunately I think this is going to leave me with the loss, since I last backed up my design workstation to tape conveniently the just far enough distant past and (dealing with long-term injury that I am only recently overcome sufficiently for picking up my WACOM pen again) only the last month or so have been planning on restoring. Completely se…

I’ve noticed a few companies seemingly pricing things higher than you’d think was sensible (the one that struck me recently is Contentful, who’s pricing tiers quickly jump up to “far too expensive for a small company”)... my assumption is they’ve made a decision that they are better served going after the customers who can pay more and leaving the rest to the competitors.

I guess maybe this is based on projections about whether (in Adobe’s case) those customers unwilling to pay a subscription are likely to ever buy upgrades, maybe also it’s easier to focus on pleasing a smaller number of more “committed” customers? Not sure really, I’d be interested to read more.

But it’s probably a conscious decision on their part, unfortunately, so I doubt we’ll ever see “one off” purchase software from Adobe again.

I do pay for their Photography package (Lightroom, Photoshop and cloud storage) and actually the cloud storage and iOS versions of Lightroom make it worthwhile for me. I occasionally need a vector editor and would probably pay another £5-10/month for Illustrator, but instead I’d have to jump to paying for full CC, so I use Affinity Designer instead!

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Post by zamalek »

jonathan-neil wrote: post #113
zamalek wrote: post #69

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I remember The Internet Archive celebrating the fact that the "do not tamper" clause was no longer legal for abandonware (as they host tons of abandonware that has been cracked, e.g. Win 95). But I could be wrong.

Would be great if you tried to look up that information and cite your claim.

You're absolutely correct to call me out on that (I was on my phone), thankfully a fellow HNer found the specific legislation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24865881
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