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You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by cameldrv »

maxerickson wrote: post #157
tbirdny wrote: post #62

No one would still be using CS 2 or 3 if Adobe had reasonable prices on new products. I bought Adobe products since the mid 1990s, but I recently switched to Affinity Photo and Designer because Adobe priced me out. Elements wasn't powerful enough for me. I was surprised how good Affinity software is. It does everything I need and is a very reasonable price without a subscription. I may never buy another Adobe product…

$600 a year isn't particularly expensive (that's for Creative Cloud). Roughly $0.30 an hour vs whatever wage is being paid to click the buttons. It's not cheap , but it's not something businesses are going to balk at either. They are showing healthy growth in revenue: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ADBE/financials?p=ADBE So apparently lots of their users are not concerned about their change to the pricing model and…

I think if you're a pro, the $600 is not a huge deal, but it's far from free. $0.30/hr assumes that you're using their products 2000 hours a year, or 40 hours per week. I'd expect that someone like a photographer might use it 1-2 hours per work day, which ends up being $2-3 per hour.

For someone like me that has occasion to use something like Photoshop or Illustrator 3-6 hours per year, the $100-$200 per hour is quite pricey.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by egorfine »

dylan604 wrote: post #129
tapland wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see people running OSX Lion to run newer CS versions than CS3 because they can’t be installed on operating systems that have gotten security updates in the last five years. =\

What version of OSX was Lion? Snow Leopard 10.6 was the last one for the original cheese graters, and I know plenty of people running those and Final Cut 7 systems. It ain't broke, so they ain't fixin'. It's older SD tape based work flows that just ingest content from tape all day long, and then places it on the SAN for others workflows.

The last cheese grater perfectly supports Big Sur, short of wireless drivers.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by chilldsgn »

prox wrote: post #191
interestica wrote: post #76

I seriously think this was the last straw for Adobe and I. I just wanted to install an older version of an app (that I've paid for!) on an older computer. I've literally spent thousands of dollars on software that I can no longer use for no reason other than that they will no longer allow me to. The worst part seems to be that they've just killed links and information about this - so you have people presuming they ca…

I switched to Affinity completely, and I also slowly see some people in the industry change. And for video, DaVinci Resolve. There might be cases were you’re tied to CS, but the bulk of the work can be done in these apps.

I've also switched to Affinity back in March, because of the fact that Creative Cloud was becoming too expensive for me and my crappy 3rd world income.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by kristopolous »

aaron695 wrote: post #162
potency wrote: post #128

> The aging activation servers for those apps had to be retired. Oh come on. Surely a company with the resources of Adobe can figure out a way to keep an activation server running. In fact I'll bet you could find one competent sysadmin to keep it running indefinitely. I hate when companies spew out obvious utter B.S. like this.

What would you think it would cost per year? What $ amount? What would be the break down? Legacy software, security and the constant upgrades, a manager, HR, customer support. Training your all your call centres to know about it and who to re-direct issues to.

* Legacy software - unsupported, $0

* security and the constant upgrades - unsupported, $0

* a manager - unsupported, $0

* HR - unsupported, $0

* customer support - unsupported, $0

* Training your all your call centres to know about it and who to re-direct issues to - unsupported, $0

all non-issues. Adobe is intentionally breaking the software.

Those arguments are like saying an Apple ][ shouldn't be able to run "The Print Shop" anymore because someone might haul their IIe and an ImageWriter into the Genius Bar.

People know it's unsupported but they still want to use it for whatever reason.

It has zilch to do with the reasons you listed. Adobe is making being a legitimate customer needlessly difficult by hustling their customers to pay for the software again. They will learn the same lesson the RIAA and the MPAA did.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by jimmaswell »

BuildTheRobots wrote: post #14

I discovered this at the start of lockdown when our hackspace got donated some older iMacs and full copies of CS3. Apparently if you got in contact with them when they first announced the retirement they were giving out activation-free installers to people who could prove ownership. It'd be lovely if someone has these archived somewhere for those of us that weren't quick enough.

Why not just pirate at that point?

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by Bigpet »

LeoNatan25 wrote: post #202

I bet the warez versions install and "activate" just fine, though. Another well deserved win for DRM.

I was surprised how easy it was. I searched for a version for my cousin to use (she doesn't have the money and won't make money from using it, but she was taught how to use it in school).

The warez scene nowadays have pre-patched *.iso versions of the whole Creative Suite (last years version I believe). No need for a keygen, messing with your hosts file or manually replacing files after install.

Not that I trust those, I didn't run them on my PC, just tried it out in a VM. If they went through all the effort of creating that version, then I don't really trust it to not contain a cryptominer of botnet client.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by jimmaswell »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #195
skohan wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have tried to use GIMP, but in my experience the UI is just so unintuitive and hard to use.

I tried to use gimp and I really wanted to like it, but I can’t. It’s clumsy and looks like death. I’d rather pay for something more polished.

I don't get this. I've used GIMP and Phptoshop and the UI differences are trivial.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by skohan »

jimmaswell wrote: post #209
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried to use gimp and I really wanted to like it, but I can’t. It’s clumsy and looks like death. I’d rather pay for something more polished.

I don't get this. I've used GIMP and Phptoshop and the UI differences are trivial.

Really? To give just one example, if I press cmd-T in PS, I go into an editing mode where I can translate, rotate, and scale a layer with intuitive, contextual mouse controls for each. With GIMP it's broken up into separate commands. I didn't spend so much time with it, but with PS things got guessable very quickly, where with GIMP it felt like the features are just stuffed in there wherever they can fit.
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