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You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by sushshshsh »

firefoxd wrote: post #100

It's 2020, the ipad is 10 years old. It was a revolutionary product. Some people stood in line for hours to be the first to own it. Well that reminds me, i do own one! Get it out of the closet and ah, the battery is depleted. Who expects it to hold charge after... 8 years? I don't have a cable either. I have lightning though, even usb-c. But nope, it's the old 30 pin charger. Order it online. Still works! Except, I h…

Thats some pretty horrific shit considering I have dot com era machines lying around still running fine

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by imposterr »

Lammy wrote: post #49

There are special no-activation-required versions of the entire CS2 and CS3 product line! Adobe killed the product activation servers for CS2 products in 2013, and for CS3 products in 2017. For CS2, they offered Activation-free replacement installers and generic serial numbers on their support page. This resulted in a bunch of press[0] about it being a /!\ omg completely free Creative Suite /!\, so for CS3's 2017 shu…

Thank you for this timeline. I was trying to figure out what had happened to the CS2/CS3 pages and downloads a bit ago and there was no info!

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by ImprobableTruth »

save_ferris wrote: post #16
grecy wrote: post #2

> You can no longer reinstall Creative Suite 2 or 3 even if you have the original installation disks. The aging activation servers for those apps had to be retired. I always wonder if a situation like this is legal. If I purchased a product and want to keep using it, what right does the seller have to prevent me from doing so x years later? Can I sue them for not selling me the product they said they were selling me?

I’m sure there’s a provision that protects them in the EULA you agreed to when you purchased it. Isn’t it a moot point anyway because nobody ever “buys” software, they just obtain a license to use it. Ownership is such a convoluted concept in tech, particularly in software.

>Isn’t it a moot point anyway because nobody ever “buys” software, they just obtain a license to use it.

Well, depends on the country. In Germany that's not a thing because contract law doesn't allow it. Either you buy software or you rent it.

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Post by srtjstjsj »

zamalek wrote: post #69
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m also not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that’s not a thing, at least in the US. Downloading/distributing abandonware is still piracy, it’s just much less likely anyone will care.

I remember The Internet Archive celebrating the fact that the "do not tamper" clause was no longer legal for abandonware (as they host tons of abandonware that has been cracked, e.g. Win 95). But I could be wrong.

You're wrong. Cracking your own software is always legal, and making illegal copies is always not, regardless of cracks.

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Post by viraptor »

canistel wrote: post #83
Shared404 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or better yet, an open source alternative. I like both GIMP and Krita. The problem with piracy is that it still ends up with more people knowing the proprietary software, and thus helps it keep the position cemented.

My notions might be outdated, but doesn't GIMP still lack CMYK support, which is sort of the default in the printing world?

It's not a proper CMYK support - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GIMP/CMYK_support#About... You can do separation and editing from there.

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Post by hajile »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #59
zamalek wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IANAL, it is now abandonware and can be legally cracked (legislation past year or two).

I’m also not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that’s not a thing, at least in the US. Downloading/distributing abandonware is still piracy, it’s just much less likely anyone will care.

I think this is what they're talking about

> Rulemaking on Exemptions from Prohibition on Circumvention of Technological Measures that Control Access to Copyrighted Works

> Computer programs and video games distributed in formats that have become obsolete and that require the original media or hardware as a condition of access, when circumvention is accomplished for the purpose of preservation or archival reproduction of published digital works by a library or archive. A format shall be considered obsolete if the machine or system necessary to render perceptible a work stored in that format is no longer manufactured or is no longer reasonably available in the commercial marketplace.

https://www.copyright.gov/1201/2006/index.html

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by srtjstjsj »

__john wrote: post #25
Hokusai wrote: post #13

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Seems like a breach of contract. Adobe should give the money back, at least.

What if you have assets that can only be opened by that version of the software? What if these assets are worth more to you than the cost of the software?

Does such an asset exist?

If it's worth that much, buy a new piece of software. Adobe isn't responsible for your 13 years of failure to make backups.

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Post by potency »

> The aging activation servers for those apps had to be retired.

Oh come on. Surely a company with the resources of Adobe can figure out a way to keep an activation server running. In fact I'll bet you could find one competent sysadmin to keep it running indefinitely. I hate when companies spew out obvious utter B.S. like this.

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Post by dylan604 »

tapland wrote: post #95
interestica wrote: post #76

I seriously think this was the last straw for Adobe and I. I just wanted to install an older version of an app (that I've paid for!) on an older computer. I've literally spent thousands of dollars on software that I can no longer use for no reason other than that they will no longer allow me to. The worst part seems to be that they've just killed links and information about this - so you have people presuming they ca…

I see people running OSX Lion to run newer CS versions than CS3 because they can’t be installed on operating systems that have gotten security updates in the last five years. =\

What version of OSX was Lion? Snow Leopard 10.6 was the last one for the original cheese graters, and I know plenty of people running those and Final Cut 7 systems. It ain't broke, so they ain't fixin'. It's older SD tape based work flows that just ingest content from tape all day long, and then places it on the SAN for others workflows.

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Post by StillBored »

peeters wrote: post #44
Retric wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s somewhat sketchy with pre boxed software. Old Nintendo cartridges just worked and presumably had zero copyright issues. If you’re buying/using hardware with software preinstalled, at what point did you agreed to the EULA?

I'm glad you qualified "old", because I tried to run some Switch games from the cartridge when I was at a cottage with no connectivity, and both games forbade me from playing without updating first.

This is what kills me about the xbone, games come on disks, but immediately want to call home before allowing play. Game calls home, and realizes it needs a 8GB patch! Proceeds to download patch at 500Kb/sec on my 100's of Mbit/sec internet connection.

Then despite probably "authenticating" itself to the xbone, won't actually run unless the disk is in the drive.

(don't get me started on how bad the UI is, I really haven't any idea why gamers love those little machines so much, they are mostly just trash).

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