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Halide Mark II

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Re: Halide Mark II

#11

Great app, but an FYI for previous purchasers - you're supposed to be able to hit "Restore purchase" and get access to the new version without doing the new in-app purchase. It's currently bugged and will lock you out of the app, so hold off on updating.

They fixed it. Just downloaded the bugfixed version and it restored my purchase.

Confirmed, got the update and can get in to the camera now.

It sounds like we get one year free?

EDIT: I have "Early supporter membership"

> All current features available forever. Free updates until Oct 22, 2021.

Re: Halide Mark II

#13
Oh I thought this was a new release of https://halide-lang.org/ but it's a photography app for iphone.

Funny enough, this language is actually useful for optimized image processing pipelines, especially when targeting such "uniform" devices.

Re: Halide Mark II

#14

Good on the Lux team for making it optional, but this is yet another app that wouldn’t have needed to introduce a subscription model if Apple would just relent on its unbending services push and add a mechanism for paid upgrades to the App Store.

I wonder if Apple is pushing this because subscription models potentially provide more long term value? Apple apps tend to need regular updates to stay valid/relevant over long periods of time and early on Apple had a lot of "abandoned" apps in the app store - subscriptions 1) keep the app developer funded/engaged 2) keep the user hooked / showing explicit value or bailing.

Fwiw, I agree, I am getting tired of the pervasiveness of subscription models, but I assume they are making good sense business wise.

Re: Halide Mark II

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post #2

Are there meaningful benefits from using Halide for people who don't want to shoot RAW or manipulate their photos in Lightroom? Articles like e.g. https://fstoppers.com/apps/why-you-shouldnt-waste-money-came... say I shouldn't bother.

None that would warrant paying a subscription for in my mind. Especially considering I've bought Halide 1, which was a one-time purchase.

Re: Halide Mark II

#16
That was confusing. When I saw the app and that it offers in-app purchases, I thought something minimal would be possible without a purchase. But after downloading and launching it, I see the prompt to buy the subscription or the one time purchase, and nothing more. The app description on the store doesn’t make this — that a purchase must be made to use it — clear either.

Edit: An observation I’ve had is that third party camera apps on iOS have a niche audience because they cannot be the default app. If you swipe left on the Lock Screen or tap on the camera icon on the Lock Screen, only Apple’s stock camera will open. I hope Apple adds more app types to have defaults set to third party apps. I know Apple cares about camera launch time and how quickly photos can be taken. There could be a minimum performance threshold set for that. It’s high time!

Re: Halide Mark II

#17

Great app, but an FYI for previous purchasers - you're supposed to be able to hit "Restore purchase" and get access to the new version without doing the new in-app purchase. It's currently bugged and will lock you out of the app, so hold off on updating.

They fixed it. Just downloaded the bugfixed version and it restored my purchase.

24 minutes later from EU I downloaded the update and I’m locked out from Restore with a “Purchase Not Found” error.

Re: Halide Mark II

#18
post #2

Are there meaningful benefits from using Halide for people who don't want to shoot RAW or manipulate their photos in Lightroom? Articles like e.g. https://fstoppers.com/apps/why-you-shouldnt-waste-money-came... say I shouldn't bother.

Halide developer here. Since we're in the middle of a launch, I don't have time to dig super detailed into that article you posted, but from a quick skim it doesn't appear to be particularly well-researched.

All the goodness of the first party camera's deep fusion, etc, is exposed to third-party developers. So if you're using a third party app (that knows what they're doing) then at worst you get the same results as the first party camera.

Here are some things off the top of my head that you don't get with the first party camera, excluding RAW:

Manual focus, Control over ISO vs duration, Manual white balance, Explicit control over which lens is being used (the first party camera switches without telling you), tell what parts are clipping or hitting your noise floor (histogram, waveform, and zebras), focus loupe and focus peaking that tell you exactly what is in focus (rather than tapping and hoping for the best) a reviewer lets you view the component images that make up the image asset in your library (e.g. depth data on portrait photos)…

With MKII, we're now investing in education to help beginning photographers become better.

That said, writing this out are just the checkboxes on a spreadsheet of features. It's harder to quantify the value of design. While we think the first party camera is great, it's also tasked with doing many, many things, from videos to panoramas.

Halide is designed to only shoot photos. Not even video, just photos. We're aiming to be the absolute best tool to do that one thing.

Re: Halide Mark II

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post #16

That was confusing. When I saw the app and that it offers in-app purchases, I thought something minimal would be possible without a purchase. But after downloading and launching it, I see the prompt to buy the subscription or the one time purchase, and nothing more. The app description on the store doesn’t make this — that a purchase must be made to use it — clear either. Edit: An observation I’ve had is that third p…

Such a sad part of iOS.

I have several high quality photo apps I prefer, and almost always end up using the default one because its easier to access.

Re: Halide Mark II

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They fixed it. Just downloaded the bugfixed version and it restored my purchase.

24 minutes later from EU I downloaded the update and I’m locked out from Restore with a “Purchase Not Found” error.

That's the same error we were having, hopefully the update rolls out soon over there
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