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iPhone 12 Pro so costly in India, you can fly to Dubai to buy it and save money

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Re: iPhone 12 Pro so costly in India, you can fly to Dubai to buy it and save money

#41

> It is no secret that the taxes and duties that are applied to imported phones are highest in India. The taxes are so high that for an important iPhone that you will end up paying an average tax of Rs 24,000 for something like an iPhone 12 or iPhone 12 Mini. > However, despite the sky-rocketing prices, iPhone still sells best in India and the buyers give whatever price Apple asks them to pay. So for a business, that…

It's a good deal for both

Re: iPhone 12 Pro so costly in India, you can fly to Dubai to buy it and save money

#42

The article excludes the cost of import duty, and other taxes (see daedalus's comment). It is a false argument to say that if I didn't pay tax things could be cheaper eg. if I break the law I can get a cheaper iPhone. Getting caught for breaking the law is a stochastic system, but the expected value is lower than most people think. Edit: How far are people willing to take this? Should we share an article saying someo…

I tried declaring a $3k server equipment once at Mumbai airport. Exceptionally difficult to pay the correct amount ($1k or so - it was 7 years ago so amount might be off) and get a receipt, they wanted me to pay $50.

Re: iPhone 12 Pro so costly in India, you can fly to Dubai to buy it and save money

#43

The article excludes the cost of import duty, and other taxes (see daedalus's comment). It is a false argument to say that if I didn't pay tax things could be cheaper eg. if I break the law I can get a cheaper iPhone. Getting caught for breaking the law is a stochastic system, but the expected value is lower than most people think. Edit: How far are people willing to take this? Should we share an article saying someo…

Taxation is theft!

Property is theft from the commons - and here this is doubly untrue: the taxes are a reasonable level on a global mega-corporation with millions of people in near-slave conditions.

Re: iPhone 12 Pro so costly in India, you can fly to Dubai to buy it and save money

#44

The article excludes the cost of import duty, and other taxes (see daedalus's comment). It is a false argument to say that if I didn't pay tax things could be cheaper eg. if I break the law I can get a cheaper iPhone. Getting caught for breaking the law is a stochastic system, but the expected value is lower than most people think. Edit: How far are people willing to take this? Should we share an article saying someo…

Taxation is theft!

Public road is a crime!

what else...

Free oxygen is communism!

Re: iPhone 12 Pro so costly in India, you can fly to Dubai to buy it and save money

#45

The article excludes the cost of import duty, and other taxes (see daedalus's comment). It is a false argument to say that if I didn't pay tax things could be cheaper eg. if I break the law I can get a cheaper iPhone. Getting caught for breaking the law is a stochastic system, but the expected value is lower than most people think. Edit: How far are people willing to take this? Should we share an article saying someo…

Taxation is theft!

In that case, you using any publicly funded service or good - including education, roads and defence, is theft.

Re: iPhone 12 Pro so costly in India, you can fly to Dubai to buy it and save money

#46

> It is no secret that the taxes and duties that are applied to imported phones are highest in India. The taxes are so high that for an important iPhone that you will end up paying an average tax of Rs 24,000 for something like an iPhone 12 or iPhone 12 Mini. > However, despite the sky-rocketing prices, iPhone still sells best in India and the buyers give whatever price Apple asks them to pay. So for a business, that…

More like the government is incompetent for failing to use policy to move manufacturing to India and instead raising prices for the average consumer.

If the govt reduces taxes, doesnt that incentivize apple to just make them elsewhere and ship to India?

I thought high taxes are the incentive to start manufacturing or assembly locally.

Re: iPhone 12 Pro so costly in India, you can fly to Dubai to buy it and save money

#47
This happened with the PS4 in Brazil.

I had a friend who was unemployed and really going through a shitty spell. Then the news that you could go to Miami buy a PS4 and resell here came up. He started doing this all the time, and then going to the parks and whatnot. Eventually he started living there and working in tourism. Finally, he arranged to bring the capital to open a tourism agency in Miami and stay there for good.

Last time there was a hurricane I texted him and he said "yeah, we boarded up the house; I'm living at a Disney hotel for the time being".

So that's what happens.

Re: iPhone 12 Pro so costly in India, you can fly to Dubai to buy it and save money

#48
post #3

I wish the article went into the cause of the price difference. Is it high import taxes/sales taxes/etc., restrictions that make the phone harder to produce or sell for the Indian market, or just Apple deciding to charge a sizably higher markup in India than elsewhere?

Its mostly taxes and duties, though Apple products are generically costlier in India. When Apple used to charge for OS updates, if you paid in Indian Rupees it would be somewhat more expensive than you would expect for exchange rate considerations.

Apple still does some ridiculous differential pricing cherades. As a developer, you don't get to set the price for your product and in app purchases for the global market, you give them a price in dollars for US, and Apple will adjust the price as they see fit for each market you pick.

Re: iPhone 12 Pro so costly in India, you can fly to Dubai to buy it and save money

#49

I live in New York. Thank God I quit smoking in 1980. A pack of cigarettes in New York costs about $15, in some stores, and no less than $10, outside of the local Native American facilities/reservations. That's almost all taxes.

> That's almost all taxes. I mean, that’s a good thing, right? Smokers should pay for the externalities their habit has on society as a whole.

Except smokers actually aren't actually a net cost to the healthcare system, because they die earlier.

"complete smoking cessation would produce a net increase in health care costs"

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199710093371506

Re: iPhone 12 Pro so costly in India, you can fly to Dubai to buy it and save money

#50
post #22

Same for Canada, often buying in the US is cheaper.

It's cheaper, but not by much. I checked apple's canadian and US site, and iPhone 12 128GB unlocked is only ~$40 cheaper when factoring in currency rates. That advantage probably evaporates once you factor in currency conversion costs, customs brokerage costs, and shipping costs.
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