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How Google obliterated my 4 year old Chrome extension with 24k+ users (2016)

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Re: How Google obliterated my 4 year old Chrome extension with 24k+ users (2016)

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Post by ByteJockey »

darepublic wrote: post #75
malikNF wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>change some laws and regulations. but then we are in another loop where people who don't understand technology will bring in laws that both fix an issue but creates a whole set of new issues, that might even hinder progress. So I am not a fan of politicians getting involved with things they don't have a good idea about. Personally I choose to believe in the whole decentralized internet idea that's starting to takin…

Yeah the internet being so predominantly web pages with html on them that you have little power to customize ad a user may seem antiquated one day. The internet should simply beam you data on demand, and you can visualize it any way you like client side

So, apis with multiple non-browser native clients?

Basically the current app model, but decoupling the owners of the client ant the api?

I think it could work, but you'd probably have to mix ads directly into the return values for it to be at all profitable.

Then again, if clients are one time download, and the owner of the api doesn't have to deliver 5-10 meg of JS every single time, you might be able to get away with less ads.

Re: How Google obliterated my 4 year old Chrome extension with 24k+ users (2016)

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Post by mschuster91 »

lopmotr wrote: post #84
mschuster91 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wonder how long before we start hearing stories like "How chrome obliterated my 4 year old website" March 2021 is that date, when Google will entirely drop all content that is not made for mobile phones: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-mobile-index-news... Seriously, fuck that shit. Google is the gatekeeper to the Internet for many people, they should not be allowed to essentially throw away two and a…

It's not quite that scary. They're removing content that the site operator explicitly made unavailable to mobile phones. Old pre-mobile sites will be fine. I would direct the "fuck that shit" to those websites that actively decide to give mobile users less information, lower resolution images (even when you zoom in @&@#!), text that goes off the screen while scrolling is disabled, so you can never see it, etc.

> Old pre-mobile sites will be fine

Who can guarantee this? What are the criteria that Google uses to determine "the site operator made the site explicitly unavailable to mobile phones"?

> those websites that actively decide to give mobile users lower resolution images

Mobile internet is a joke even in developed countries such as Germany, and data caps on mobile are absurdly low. It's annoying that zoom does not work, yes, but I hate sites with a passion that think it's ok to waste 3 MB of my precious 2GB data volume for a single fucking pageview.

Re: How Google obliterated my 4 year old Chrome extension with 24k+ users (2016)

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Post by scruffyherder »

Daniel_sk wrote: post #27
mywacaday wrote: post #24

As a user paying extra for google storage the constant flow of stories of people having issues with google and nobody to contact scare me. What happens if I loose access to my account and loose gmail/photos/drive. What do people use to backup Google?

Leave Google, use separate services. I solved it by purchasing my own domain address, moving from Gmail to Fastmail, replaced Android with iOS, replaced Chrome with Firefox, moved my passwords to 1Password, moved from Google Photos to iCloud (it automatically downloads all your pictures to your desktop as backup. There is no such thing for Google Photos).

I moved to Microsoft, but the story is the same.

Own your domain name, with that you can go anywhere.

Once you become a paying customer the options are so much better and more comprehensive. And owning your domain let’s you do far more flexible things. Rent a VPS, install ftpd. No longer live with San Francisco imposed choices.

Re: How Google obliterated my 4 year old Chrome extension with 24k+ users (2016)

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Post by Kiro »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #25
malikNF wrote: post #23

I wonder how long before we start hearing stories like "How chrome obliterated my 4 year old website" On a serious note though, why do we keep getting trapped in this cycle so many times? Company walled garden(WG) comes up with a WG, developers build for that WG. WG forgets about the people who made the WG a fun place for everyone to be in. WG screws over the old developers who's hard work it build itself on. And the…

I dunno, I for one hope developers build sites according to standards (instead of Chrome-only features), and Chrome has a big test suite to test said features. I mean 20 year old websites still work just fine in Chrome. It's only those that do nonstandard things - like IE's tech, Flash, Java applets - that they no longer work. Famously, the old Space Jam website seems to work just fine: https://www.spacejam.com/

When building web games the browser differences can bite you even if you're following the standard. Firefox is currently rolling out WebRender which hopefully will solve the performance issues I'm facing (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=925025).

Re: How Google obliterated my 4 year old Chrome extension with 24k+ users (2016)

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Post by whazor »

Ap0c wrote: post #52

Ran a online retail business for 12 years. One day, Adwords account suspended. Some generic 'voilation' email. No way to resolve, no person to speak to, no comment on the issue. Tried to resolve for months. Fired 15 staff, gave up. Basically the internet = Google when you run online retail.

Not sure when this happened. But Adwords does have a phone number and companies have their own agent.

Re: How Google obliterated my 4 year old Chrome extension with 24k+ users (2016)

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Post by nvrspyx »

tn890 wrote: post #18
cookiengineer wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not use Ungoogled Chromium [1] instead? Developer Mode is active forever, and no Google-centric integrations. [1] https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

> Why not use Ungoogled Chromium [1] instead? Why not use Firefox instead? Then you've solved the problem for good.

The same restriction applies on Firefox. Sideloaded extensions disappear after every restart. Only Developer Edition allows sideloaded extensions to persist.

Re: How Google obliterated my 4 year old Chrome extension with 24k+ users (2016)

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Post by theandrewbailey »

Ap0c wrote: post #52

Ran a online retail business for 12 years. One day, Adwords account suspended. Some generic 'voilation' email. No way to resolve, no person to speak to, no comment on the issue. Tried to resolve for months. Fired 15 staff, gave up. Basically the internet = Google when you run online retail.

Is your state atterney general part of the antitrust suit? Can you contact them and join in somehow?

Re: How Google obliterated my 4 year old Chrome extension with 24k+ users (2016)

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Post by scruffyherder »

malikNF wrote: post #23

I wonder how long before we start hearing stories like "How chrome obliterated my 4 year old website" On a serious note though, why do we keep getting trapped in this cycle so many times? Company walled garden(WG) comes up with a WG, developers build for that WG. WG forgets about the people who made the WG a fun place for everyone to be in. WG screws over the old developers who's hard work it build itself on. And the…

It’s already happening with forced ssl, and then the constant pushing for AMP.

Google used to share what brought people to your site to give you hints of what was engaging people.

So I end up getting all my analytics from bing and baidu.

Not to mention the ddosing from monsters and you effectively have no choice but cloud flare.

Re: How Google obliterated my 4 year old Chrome extension with 24k+ users (2016)

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Post by marketingPro »

Ap0c wrote: post #52

Ran a online retail business for 12 years. One day, Adwords account suspended. Some generic 'voilation' email. No way to resolve, no person to speak to, no comment on the issue. Tried to resolve for months. Fired 15 staff, gave up. Basically the internet = Google when you run online retail.

Notably absent, the generic details about the company.

I'm removing Google from my life as we speak, but whenever you prod further about these you find out they did violate TOS and are just unhappy.

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