FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
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Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#2Much like WSL may be “eating” away at real Linux user-share, it will be interesting to see if enabling FreeBSD development outside FreeBSD itself will somehow affect the FreeBSD marketshare (for better or worse).
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#3"On the Git front, their transitioning from Subversion to Git they hope to have a beta repository by the end of October."
Their migration from Subversion to Git also provided the motive for the murder mystery book "git commit murder" by Michael W. Lucas.
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#4Much like WSL may be “eating” away at real Linux user-share, it will be interesting to see if enabling FreeBSD development outside FreeBSD itself will somehow affect the FreeBSD marketshare (for better or worse).
Those poor workers who has to use Windows for Linux-related works because of stupid employer's policy previously use VM, so it doesn't change much. Nothing to be eaten.
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#5Much like WSL may be “eating” away at real Linux user-share, it will be interesting to see if enabling FreeBSD development outside FreeBSD itself will somehow affect the FreeBSD marketshare (for better or worse).
I gave up on FreeBSD on my hobby server after having have to maintain tiny differences all over for my ansible script and zshrc and whatnot.
It just takes unnecessary effort to keep up with what just works for Linux and I didn't see much benefit sticking to FreeBSD.
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#6Much like WSL may be “eating” away at real Linux user-share, it will be interesting to see if enabling FreeBSD development outside FreeBSD itself will somehow affect the FreeBSD marketshare (for better or worse).
Those poor workers who has to use Windows for Linux-related works because of stupid employer's policy previously use VM, so it doesn't change much. Nothing to be eaten.
Nah, lots of shops begrudgingly support Linux laptops because a VM is a lot less practical, and the productivity hit would be substantial, probably, and forcing devs to make do with Windows only is bad for hiring.
If WSL really works out, though, it might be the other way around – Linux on Windows might work really well, be able to do things Linux itself can't, like interfacing with Windows-only hardware, using DirectX, and be the superior experience in total for lots of people. It will be much, much harder to justify the expense of buying a whole different set of hardware and support it if the net result is a worse experience across the board. Businesses tend to not care much about freedom of software and the like.
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#7It's great that we don't need FreeBSD to build FreeBSD anymore.
In other news, my butcher has finally become a vegetarian.
But, joking aside, it's great that FreeBSD has improved Linux KPI layer, improved Linux application compatibility, and has synced their ZFS code with upstream ZFS-on-Linux.
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those poor workers who has to use Windows for Linux-related works because of stupid employer's policy previously use VM, so it doesn't change much. Nothing to be eaten.
Nah, lots of shops begrudgingly support Linux laptops because a VM is a lot less practical, and the productivity hit would be substantial, probably, and forcing devs to make do with Windows only is bad for hiring. If WSL really works out, though, it might be the other way around – Linux on Windows might work really well, be able to do things Linux itself can't, like interfacing with Windows-only hardware, using Direc…
> Linux on Windows might work really well … and be the superior experience in total for lots of people.
No, it will not and — without massive changes at Microsoft and in Windows — will never be. Source: have a Windows box, am repeatedly amazed at how bad it is. Seriously, it is embarrassing to use Windows. I think the only reason people enjoy it is the fact that they have not gotten a chance to really spend time in a good tiling window manager on X11/GNU/Linux. The GUI is ugly and laggy. The ads are an insult. The shells are either childish or stupidly (emphasis on the stupid) verbose, and gratuitously incompatible.
There seriously is no comparison: in 2020, Linux is head and shoulders above Windows on the desktop.
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#9Much like WSL may be “eating” away at real Linux user-share, it will be interesting to see if enabling FreeBSD development outside FreeBSD itself will somehow affect the FreeBSD marketshare (for better or worse).
Those poor workers who has to use Windows for Linux-related works because of stupid employer's policy previously use VM, so it doesn't change much. Nothing to be eaten.
There is a non-zero chance WSL will make desktop Linux completely irrelevant even for developers.
Re: FreeBSD Can Now Be Built From Linux/macOS Hosts, Transition To Git Continues
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those poor workers who has to use Windows for Linux-related works because of stupid employer's policy previously use VM, so it doesn't change much. Nothing to be eaten.
There is a non-zero chance WSL will make desktop Linux completely irrelevant even for developers.
it's called "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish"