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Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

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Post by renke1 »

ordo_inf wrote: post #19
cpach wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, not to rain too much on Peertube’s parade but in my locale (Sweden) that is about one month’s worth of salary for a developer. And in other locales such as Silicon Valley it’s even less (maybe 1-2 weeks of salary?). Then again in some locales that kind of money would go a much longer way of course.

I live in Sweden too. Is that true? I thought it was more around 4k EUR. Or am I being lowballed here...

10k for the average developer (in Europe) sounds a bit too high, 4k a bit too low, but closer to what I would expect.

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

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Post by cpach »

ordo_inf wrote: post #19
cpach wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, not to rain too much on Peertube’s parade but in my locale (Sweden) that is about one month’s worth of salary for a developer. And in other locales such as Silicon Valley it’s even less (maybe 1-2 weeks of salary?). Then again in some locales that kind of money would go a much longer way of course.

I live in Sweden too. Is that true? I thought it was more around 4k EUR. Or am I being lowballed here...

Oh I meant in terms of cost for the employer. As they have to pay additional taxes on top of the salary. E.g. the so called “employer’s fee” and pension fees (tjänstepension) and stuff like that.

BTW, if you want to go into details, feel free to shoot me an email.

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

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Post by 3np »

ordo_inf wrote: post #19
cpach wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, not to rain too much on Peertube’s parade but in my locale (Sweden) that is about one month’s worth of salary for a developer. And in other locales such as Silicon Valley it’s even less (maybe 1-2 weeks of salary?). Then again in some locales that kind of money would go a much longer way of course.

I live in Sweden too. Is that true? I thought it was more around 4k EUR. Or am I being lowballed here...

Sweden's great at obfuscating how high effective income tax actually is; payroll tax ("arbetsgivaravgift") and social fees are charged on the employer's side and never seen on your payslip (and are, depending on income, almost comparable to income tax).

That's not even accounting for non-salary costs.

~7-8k EUR effective cost for 1 person-month sounds about right to me.

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

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Post by viraptor »

mtgx wrote: post #5

Anyone want to take bets that Google would eventually try to deprecate whatever API peertube needs because of some plausibly true "security reason" in the next few years?

I'd take a bet against, because peertube transport can be essentially implemented in the same way as video calls. As long as Google Meet works in the browser, peertube can too. (I'm not saying it works that way right now)

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

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Post by TheCapeGreek »

john4532452 wrote: post #13
richardARPANET wrote: post #12

IMO, PeerTube will never become popular due to its decentralized nature.

Why ? What are the premises that leads to your conclusion ?

Not OP, but having tried PeerTube just to see what it was about, just the usability is a pain. There's a lot of foreign language content that clogged up my front page and I'm not even in Europe for some elementary locale checking to try and match content. Then of course, decentralised streaming in this way is incredibly slow and has the same pitfalls as torrents: If there aren't any/enough peers you're screwed or just generally going to have a really bad time.

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

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Post by dewey »

feralimal wrote: post #6

This is so heart warming. Thanks to Debian and wow - Framasoft (who I'd never heard of) has a page that is so on point!! Amazing. Someone doing something to stop the book burning (comment deletion in the billions) and censorship at youtube. I wish there was more of this.

> Someone doing something to stop the book burning (comment deletion in the billions) and censorship at youtube.

What kind of content is getting "censored" on YouTube?

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

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Post by jcelerier »

feralimal wrote: post #16
richardARPANET wrote: post #12

IMO, PeerTube will never become popular due to its decentralized nature.

Centralised platforms have utterly failed us though, and have become a way to manage information centrally - someone decides what you can or can't see/read/know about. Decentralised is really the only option for an informed humanity. In the long run, this has to be the answer.

> Decentralised is really the only option for an informed humanity. In the long run, this has to be the answer.

that implies that "an informed humanity" is something that society wants. I really doubt that.

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

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Post by richardARPANET »

feralimal wrote: post #16
richardARPANET wrote: post #12

IMO, PeerTube will never become popular due to its decentralized nature.

Centralised platforms have utterly failed us though, and have become a way to manage information centrally - someone decides what you can or can't see/read/know about. Decentralised is really the only option for an informed humanity. In the long run, this has to be the answer.

I'm not sure it's due to the technical setup of the platforms. But rather that they're all built in SV and/or are controlled by monopolies that are the problem.

Myself and a few people are actually working on a video site with freedom of speech values and grandma level usability, feel free to follow along (https://project49476.com/).

Re: Debian donation for Peertube development

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Post by dewey »

Saint_Genet wrote: post #18
john4532452 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

duckduckgo

Not equivalent at all. DDG gathers the content they provide themselves. Video sites rely on users for content, which is why critical mass matters. Why get 100 views on peertube when you can 100000 views on Youtube?

> DDG gathers the content they provide themselves.

You know that DDG mostly relies on Bing for their search index right?

https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/?redir=1

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