Chess’s Cheating Crisis

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 9:53 AM UTC

wildmanx wrote: post #272

nix23 wrote: post #223

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>I replied to "basically every elite athlete is doping." That's definitely BS True in Curling i never heard of doping. And trust me even your friend would not told you if he takes doping (no saying he did). And again not every Sport profits from Doping and not everyone takes them but lots and lots of them do, and having a blind eye because of profit is the unfair thing for the honest and sportsmanship'ish peoples.

> True in Curling i never heard of doping. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/19/sports/olympics/olympic-c... Your feelings are not in congruence with facts. > And again not every Sport profits from Doping and not everyone takes them but lots and lots of them do, and having a blind eye because of profit is the unfair thing for the honest and sportsmanship'ish peoples. Again, evidence or it did not happen. You are castin…

Post by lakis » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 6:00 AM UTC

umvi wrote: post #231

ben509 wrote: post #21

> Perhaps thinking of Lance Armstrong, he added: “I was a big fan of a certain cyclist and a part of me understands the pressure to succeed at all costs. ..." Lance Armstrong didn't just cheat, he set up a whole doping ring.[1] The full report is at [2]. Section VI of the Reasoned Decision lays out his efforts to keep a lid on the whole thing. There are plenty of athletes who get caught up in doping due to the pressu…

"Doping" sounds bad like he's taking drugs, but isn't doping just putting your own blood back inside of you to get higher red blood cell counts? How is that much different from living on top of a mountain for a few months and then coming down on race day with elevated red blood cell counts? Is the latter cheating as well? Why not just legalize doping in sports, that way everyone can do it and therefore not gain an ad…

  If he did this on the first day of the Tour de France, yes, they are the same thing. 
   But if he is pumping fresh blood on the ten or twenty day of the tour, it's like you take a few months in the mountain recouping before you run the next day race. 
   Do you think it's OK if one cyclist is running stages day after day while the other cyclist has a week to recoup between stages to recoup? Is this even the same race?