Live data from Hacker News

Startup Financial Modeling: What is a Financial Model? (2016)

mathventurepartners.com

1–10 of 51 posts

Re: Startup Financial Modeling: What is a Financial Model? (2016)

#2
> Google sheets is convenient for making changes and having multiple people editing, but sending an investor a model in Google sheets signals that you are not financially savvy.

I do wonder how many of these 'signals' there are, and what weight they really carry for investors.

Re: Startup Financial Modeling: What is a Financial Model? (2016)

#3
For those looking for the rest of the series, it's here: https://www.mathventurepartners.com/blog?offset=157373689900...

This looks like a series on how to build a relatively straightforward operating model with a focus on cash balance and "founder value" (I guess that's attributable equity to the founder)

If you're interested in valuation, it's worth checking out Prof. Damodaran's work or an online resource such as Macabacus modeling guide: https://macabacus.com/operating-model/introduction

Re: Startup Financial Modeling: What is a Financial Model? (2016)

#4
Is it useful to have a startup financial model if you're still at the early stages?

I've analyzed over 480 founder interviews (mostly for their acquisition channels [1]) and there's 1 adjective that defines their growth: "messy". They pitched a bunch of journalists, did a trial & error for 100s of ads on FB/Google, had search traffic after 6 months of trying (but 0 before that) and so on.

There's a sub-headline in the article that says "Why Should Founders Care about Building a Financial Model?"...I think a more important question is "WHEN"?

[1] https://firstpayingusers.com

Re: Startup Financial Modeling: What is a Financial Model? (2016)

#5

> Google sheets is convenient for making changes and having multiple people editing, but sending an investor a model in Google sheets signals that you are not financially savvy. I do wonder how many of these 'signals' there are, and what weight they really carry for investors.

Also what is the concern here? Is it that the investor will take advantage of you if they don't think you're financially savvy, or that they won't invest?

If it's the former then you need to know your shit because any superficial signaling will evaporate within the first meeting. If it's the latter, then the investors are circle-jerking morons by valuing financial savvy over strength in product, engineering, operations, or even charisma.

Re: Startup Financial Modeling: What is a Financial Model? (2016)

#6

Is it useful to have a startup financial model if you're still at the early stages? I've analyzed over 480 founder interviews (mostly for their acquisition channels [1]) and there's 1 adjective that defines their growth: "messy". They pitched a bunch of journalists, did a trial & error for 100s of ads on FB/Google, had search traffic after 6 months of trying (but 0 before that) and so on. There's a sub-headline in th…

Most startups have a financial model before they start doing business, because most startups aren't in tech.

Tech is the only market where you have the luxury to not know what your revenue model is, or even what your product is, for months or years after you have "launched."

Given the high rate of failure with tech startups, more financial modeling in the early stages would probably have resulted in more meaningful attempts at creating value, rather than the constant copycatting you currently see.

Re: Startup Financial Modeling: What is a Financial Model? (2016)

#9

Is it useful to have a startup financial model if you're still at the early stages? I've analyzed over 480 founder interviews (mostly for their acquisition channels [1]) and there's 1 adjective that defines their growth: "messy". They pitched a bunch of journalists, did a trial & error for 100s of ads on FB/Google, had search traffic after 6 months of trying (but 0 before that) and so on. There's a sub-headline in th…

Yes. It’s almost never too early to build a financial model. As noted in the original article, your model will always be wrong. However, the exercise of creating the model and using it to build out strawman scenarios is enormously helpful to let you understand how internal burn rates, customer acquisition costs, COGS, recurring revenues, etc all interact and how those could line up to different fundraising timelines. I’m not sure how you can reasonably start working full time on a business or idea without at least a rough model to play with.

Re: Startup Financial Modeling: What is a Financial Model? (2016)

#10

> Google sheets is convenient for making changes and having multiple people editing, but sending an investor a model in Google sheets signals that you are not financially savvy. I do wonder how many of these 'signals' there are, and what weight they really carry for investors.

The other side is everything via DocSend so you can surveil them. This also doesn't go well.
Post reply on HN