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Tell HN: Please bring back comment scores

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Re: Tell HN: Please bring back comment scores

#31
Seeing comment scores helps me to quickly scan comments to find the ones of most interest. It's not about "who's right" or "who's wrong" --- but what comments are more insightful and interesting. This is what the community of HN provides in voting people's comments up and down. This concept is missing now.

All in all, not showing comment points is a step backwards in helping people get the most out of the site in the most efficient way possible.

Re: Tell HN: Please bring back comment scores

#32

I really like the lack of comment scores. Things are still sorted, so the cream floats to the top, and it made me realize I felt group-impulses based on the score. Now, there is little to no incentive to one-up someone, and I don't consider people refuted based on their score, but rather based on what I think of their comment. That last part has nurtured my curiosity, I find myself exploring thoughts I didn't on the…

Very well put. I have experienced the same thing.

Yes, at times I'm curious what a comment's score is, but that's my lizard brain talking.

Re: Tell HN: Please bring back comment scores

#33

The only place I really miss having them is in older articles and on searchyc.com. I feel a much greater compulsion to engage each comment on its merit when voting and when reading, and I feel like reading HN has become more intellectually stimulating. However, this is more of a problem when I'm trying to assess information in areas that I'm not already familiar with. If I'm searching for information on which DNS pro…

ABSOLUTELY. Comment scores in the midst of an active discussion narrow thinking. Comment scores on historical artifacts are useful for research.

So the evident solution then would be to show comment scores after X (24?) hours since the news item was posted.

Re: Tell HN: Please bring back comment scores

#34
post #21

The most important aspect of the comment scores was that they let me know what the HN community thought of a particular point or argument. I'm capable of making up my own mind about any topic. I find it interesting and useful to see what other people think. As a geek I miss being able to see that "people agreed with this side of the argument at +20 as opposed to that side at +10". If some people want to treat it as a…

|The most important aspect of the comment scores was that they let me know what the HN community thought of a particular point or argument. I'm capable of making up my own mind about any topic. I find it interesting and useful to see what other people think

That seems like cognitive dissonance to me and a rationalization. If you truly make up your own mind about something then why would you care so granularly about how much/little HN likes a comment. The ordering of the comments allows you to know where the comments all compare, so I don't see what you're really missing other than the exactness.

Re: Tell HN: Please bring back comment scores

#36
The only issue I see with not being able to see the scores of comments is that joke or off-the-cuff comments are probably getting a lot more points.

If there was a comment that made me laugh (while sticking to the point) I will be more likely to upvote it, but if it already had 10+ upvotes a laugh on my part probably didn't justify another upvote.

Re: Tell HN: Please bring back comment scores

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ABSOLUTELY. Comment scores in the midst of an active discussion narrow thinking. Comment scores on historical artifacts are useful for research.

I think if people in general see a comment that has been upvoted heavily they are less likely to contribute their opinion to it if they agree with it. I like not being able to see its weight as I feel like more readers will comment with their opinions rather than just upvote, which creates more discussion, etc (I have no numbers to back this up, just what I believe).

This is true for me--I have felt more encouraged to contribute to discussions now that the votes are hidden as opposed to before; As long as the higher voted comments bubble up to the top I don't see a reason to see the votes count with a comment.

Re: Tell HN: Please bring back comment scores

#38
post #25

People can be wrong about things, and comment scores are useful information that helps us know if they are. "that is not how mysql works" with 2 Points And "that is not how mysql works" with 102 points Are not the same piece of info. I don't see any benefit to hiding this from people. It also helps newbies understand the customs here (they can get feedback on other people's comments) edit now that I'm not on my phone…

You can see how agreeable a comment is by how far up the page it is.

I think having the scores hidden is a good decision. It means that we concentrate on content rather than a 'karma game'.

""that is not how mysql works" with 2 Points And "that is not how mysql works" with 102 points Are not the same piece of info."

In my opinion, both of those comments are bad comments unless they further qualify the statement. I don't think karma should be used to infer whether a statement is correct.

Re: Tell HN: Please bring back comment scores

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post #38
post #25

People can be wrong about things, and comment scores are useful information that helps us know if they are. "that is not how mysql works" with 2 Points And "that is not how mysql works" with 102 points Are not the same piece of info. I don't see any benefit to hiding this from people. It also helps newbies understand the customs here (they can get feedback on other people's comments) edit now that I'm not on my phone…

You can see how agreeable a comment is by how far up the page it is. I think having the scores hidden is a good decision. It means that we concentrate on content rather than a 'karma game'. " "that is not how mysql works" with 2 Points And "that is not how mysql works" with 102 points Are not the same piece of info. " In my opinion, both of those comments are bad comments unless they further qualify the statement. I…

Does not work that way if a reply has 100 upvotes, does it?

Also I love the discussion in this post since, when with Georgify (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2410195) I had tried first to seperate the upvotes with points of a comment, everyone (and yes a blanket term) had said it was a wrong thing to the extent that I had to make changes.

Of course it is not my site to make decisions for the users of the site, but still almost a dual reaction when the same decision was taken on HN by two different people in a very nearby time span, one being me (for Georgify) and the other being PG himself (for HN).

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