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Re: Microsoft Edge dev preview for Linux

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 9:19 AM UTC

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Re: Microsoft Edge dev preview for Linux

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Post by rusticpenn » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 10:19 AM UTC

xen2xen1 wrote: post #9

llarsson wrote: post #3

Nice of them to make something so that CI/CD systems can run tests of frontend functionality in Edge without requiring a Windows runner. Because I cannot imagine anyone will use this unironically as their browser on their Linux desktop.

I will absolutely use this unironically on Linux, and I can't wait. Edge has all (most?) of the features of Chrome and isn't tied to Google's services. Somehow the world has twisted to where I trust Microsoft more than Google, even if it's just to not shut their stuff down on a whim. I'm trying to get all my services off Google, and if it weren't for Voice... You ought to unironically try it.

Does Chromium not fit this bill?? ( I really don't know)

Re: Microsoft Edge dev preview for Linux

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Post by _AzMoo » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 10:39 AM UTC

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #17

llarsson wrote: post #3

Nice of them to make something so that CI/CD systems can run tests of frontend functionality in Edge without requiring a Windows runner. Because I cannot imagine anyone will use this unironically as their browser on their Linux desktop.

I'd use it. It's a chromium based browser by someone not being investigated for antitrust

By someone not being investigated for antitrust this year.

Re: Microsoft Edge dev preview for Linux

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 11:55 AM UTC

GekkePrutser wrote: post #15

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft makes a pretty good amount of money on Windows licensing, and a whole lot of places run Windows because 1) AD is pretty great, and 2) A lot of software businesses rely on is Windows only. I do not see this changing in the near future. I can't see a strong incentive for companies to switch to Linux even if MS brings AD, GPOs, Office, and its own MS-supported WINE.

AD is not great. It depends on a legacy model with trusted company networks that was out even before COVID and all the home working hammered the last nail into its coffin. Setting up new systems with it remotely is a real pain, something the EMM model fixes completely.

Pretty much all the remote work I'm aware of in my area is done using RDP, so AD is still relevant. I think your opinion may be biased towards smaller and younger companies.

Re: Microsoft Edge dev preview for Linux

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Post by twistedpair » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 12:41 PM UTC

Anyone find this build very slow? When I click on a page, the repaint is taking 10-20s, or requiring forced window repaint by moving to another desktop and back.

I see that this is based on the Chromium `88.0.673.0` build, so I expect it will just be unstable for a bit.

Re: Microsoft Edge dev preview for Linux

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Post by madmulita » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 12:54 PM UTC

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #17

llarsson wrote: post #3

Nice of them to make something so that CI/CD systems can run tests of frontend functionality in Edge without requiring a Windows runner. Because I cannot imagine anyone will use this unironically as their browser on their Linux desktop.

I'd use it. It's a chromium based browser by someone not being investigated for antitrust

Too bad they were convicted on those charges.

Re: Microsoft Edge dev preview for Linux

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Post by Stierlitz » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 1:23 PM UTC

“Microsoft Edge”, don't they mean a re-skinned Google Chromium.

Re: Microsoft Edge dev preview for Linux

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Post by mongol » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 3:49 PM UTC

wildrhythms wrote: post #8

mongol wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will. I think it is good with challengers and look forward to try it.

Why use Edge over Chromium on Linux?

Why not? Perhaps it is better. I will try to see.

Re: Microsoft Edge dev preview for Linux

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Post by cbsks » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 4:02 PM UTC

fogihujy wrote: post #28

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd use it. It's a chromium based browser by someone not being investigated for antitrust

It's funny how Microsoft became the lesser evil after being considered worse than Satan for a very long time. I don't disagree with you, but it's still funny.

Some of us are too young to really understand the anti-Microsoft sentiment of the 90s and early 2000s. All I remember from that era is that “Microsoft is bad”; I never completely understood why it was bad. Then Facebook and Google came along and I got a front row seat to their descent into the depths of the moral abyss. So from my perspective, Microsoft is the lesser of 3 evils.

Re: Microsoft Edge dev preview for Linux

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Post by brnt » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 4:28 PM UTC

eznzt wrote: post #29

brnt wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why send your data to Big Tech when today you can avoid it (ungoogled chromium et al)?

I am on Windows and I would like to use ungoogled Chromium but I don't see it as a choice because it does not have automatic updates and I am concerned about my security. I suppose this is a solved problem on Linux?

There are repos that carry it, but doesn't the Windows version autoupdate? Or at least warn you of an update?