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The linux desktop experience is still quite in a state. I will likely do the same and suffer Linux, but I think many will go back to windows as WSL continues to improve. Apple is going to lose developers.
You have even less control over the OS with Windows 10. Why would anyone move from Mac to Windows for a daily desktop env?
Apple's apps bypass firewalls like LittleSnitch and LuLu on macOS Big Sur
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Tech savvy users are not just the minority. They're also cheap. They've been conditioned by the FOSS movement to think all software should be free as-in-beer. (The people who started FOSS didn't say that, but that's what it's become.) They say they want free as-in-freedom, but since they are not willing to pay for it they don't exist. Those who pay set the agenda for everything. Developing a truly polished operating…
Where are these weird anti-FOSS statements being bred from? > Those who pay set the agenda for everything. And this different from non FOSS software how? > Developing a truly polished operating system with a whole ecosystem of services is far, far beyond what volunteers and hobbyists can achieve. As someone who uses Linux as my primary workstation I disagree. My coworkers that use Mac or Windows seem to have about th…
I've been a FOSS user and sometimes contributor since 1994 when I installed Linux with floppy disks, and have consistently watched FOSS lose the mainstream because they don't grasp the critical importance of UI/UX.
I want to write "it has to just work" on a sledgehammer and bash people about the head with it over and over again until they understand that user experience is f'ing EVERYTHING and every installation or setup step required to adopt something roughly halves adoption.
This is largely because we are in an age of time and attention poverty.
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They provide the OS. If you don't trust them, then you shouldn't trust anything running on top of it either...
I don't understand these style of responses. I think the point is that this "feature" makes the OS shittier.
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I don't believe this is ever the case. What happens if you legitimately installed a new keyboard? Will Apple just... prevent you from using it?
I have a 2017 MBP. There are several keycaps that that are no longer physically connected to the key, so if I tilt the laptop 4 or 5 keys fall off. I have been dealing with it by using an external Apple keyboard (with added benefit of having 10-key and full sized arrow keys). Since it's on a desktop in this config, I have it set to never sleep so luckily I have not seen this unwakeable fuck up.
If you still have time, get your keyboard replaced for free: https://support.apple.com/keyboard-service-program-for-mac-n... (it also means they have to replace your mobo and battery due to brilliant Apple engineering).
It doesn't fix the problem, but it resets the clock until they fall off again. In Texas, it was <48 hours between dropping my Macbook off at the Apple shop and receiving it on my doorstep.
Re: Apple's apps bypass firewalls like LittleSnitch and LuLu on macOS Big Sur
#315Apple seems to do all kinds of weird networking _stuff_. For instance, during wakeup, your T2 equipped Macbook will wait for a DNS response and then use said DNS response to synchronize time via NTP before letting the user use the keyboard. Probably checking timestamps on signatures for the keyboard firmware, or something stupid like that. This only happens if it happens to have a default route. Similarly, all macOS…
Apple touted the T2 chip as the bee's knees in security. Now, we have a vulnerability that cannot be defended against. However, Apple went all in on the security of this T2 chip so that you cannot replace the SSD (besides the method to manufacture). I appreciate the desire at making a device difficult for a bad actor to get to your data, but they epicly failed and ultimately only made an user-hostile device. Oh, and…
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What if you have a model with ports only on the left-hand side? Does it crash it as well?
I'm not sure. I have a 2019 mbp 16 with a dodgy logic board and while it crashes even without charging on the left it definitely crashes more often when charging on the left. I'm stuck in limbo because I need my machine for work. Will take it in when I have a break. Some threads https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250905859 https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2019-16-inch-macbook-pr...
Re: Apple's apps bypass firewalls like LittleSnitch and LuLu on macOS Big Sur
#317So? Users expect basic OS functionality (like the App Store, Maps, etc) to function. Do people really install Little Snitch (which I've used since 2005 or so) for blocking Apple's own apps?
> Do people really install Little Snitch (which I've used since 2005 or so) for blocking Apple's own apps? Yes, Absolutely! My primary use case for Little Snitch is to block Apple "services" that I don't use or want. I don't use iCloud at all. I don't want Apple phoning home unless I specifically, manually check for software updates.
I don't think a valid buyer of macOS computers is the type that doesn't use iCloud and needs to block it.
Sounds like masochism.
They can of course not use iCloud or the App Store. Blocking it? Might as well use another OS.
I don't doubt there are some users like that. I doubt there are many users like that. And I don't believe an OS maker should cater to such a niche demographic...
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I find it interesting how the needs of legitimate security mesh so well with the industry desires to kill off general-purpose computing for the majority of users
I mean the irony is when it comes to browsers you see the general tone of HN shift to the opposite opinion when it comes to features like, RTC, USB, Bluetooth, Filesystem Access. These are all features that give users more power but it's (apparently) easier to see the downsides and how these features can and are used maliciously. Now put yourself in the Apple's position where "an iOS app" or a "mac App" is about as t…
I don't think it's that ironic. From my vantage point, the big tech companies specifically and consistently invoke the security arguments that are best aligned with their agendas.
• We need to enforce automatic Windows 10 updates to keep your computer secure. (But also, we won't let consumers use the security-patches-only LTSC branch we offer businesses.)
• You cannot install an app on your iPhone that we have not personally vetted. (As part of the vetting process, we enforce a 30% cut on all digital goods.)
• We need to hide URLs in Chrome to protect users from phishing websites. (But isn't it nice how it makes AMP more seamless?)
• We need to give browsers Bluetooth and USB access, because web apps are safer than random Windows executables. (But also, we can advertise inside of web apps more easily.)
I could go on. The problem with all of these arguments is that they aren't wrong so much as they're selective. The iOS App Store does protect users from malware, and hiding URLs does protect users from phishing. What goes unacknowledged are the trade-offs of these decisions—some of which may themselves be bad for security.
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#319So? Users expect basic OS functionality (like the App Store, Maps, etc) to function. Do people really install Little Snitch (which I've used since 2005 or so) for blocking Apple's own apps?
Firewall users expect the 'App Store, Maps, etc.' to not function if not configured to be allowed through the firewall.
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I don't understand these style of responses. I think the point is that this "feature" makes the OS shittier.
For the average user who expects to be able to block malicious traffic via something like Little Snitch, but still expects their OS updates, App Store, etc to work, or for someone who "knows better"?