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Re: Inspired use of QR code on resume

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Post by eli »

thingicantsay wrote: post #33
eli wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are using a very extreme interpretation of the law. It's illegal to discriminate against someone on the basis of race and other protected classes. So by extension, it's best practice to avoid asking applicants for their race or asking them for a photo, lest you give the appearance that it's a factor in the hiring decision. But I've never heard of rejecting someone outright for sending an unsolicited photo. That's…

Would you also reject an applicant who had "President of African-American Student Union" on their resume because it belies their race? Well, likely he wouldn't, but we can be sure that he would reject someone outright for having "President of the European-American Student Union", can't we? Charitably, this is because there is essentially no chance anyone would ever file a lawsuit for rejection of the second candidate…

I'm not really sure what you're saying, but it sounds mildly offensive.

It's both wrong and illegal to reject a candidate based on their race, regardless of what race that is. And I am pretty sure the OP was not implying otherwise. Further, I assure you that white people file discrimination lawsuits too.

Re: Inspired use of QR code on resume

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Post by rhizome »

lean wrote: post #7
mgkimsal wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure that's 100% true. Many places may indeed skip over someone like that, but there's no law I've ever read that says "if someone sends in a picture, you can not consider them for a position". Perhaps if you know of such a law, you could post it here?

It's in the spirit of compliance with Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Any HR dept in the US will have a strict policy on this.

My sense is that it's always a bad idea to ask for a picture and chances are that sending one won't help. The resume is in French, though, so this is likely different in Europe.

Re: Inspired use of QR code on resume

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Post by charper »

leif wrote: post #36
charper wrote: post #17

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Is the spelling of 'winddows' intentional ? Obviously he's not a native english speaker so im not having a 'dig' just merely curious .

Nope, just a typo. Windows is still Windows in France.

Thats what I thought. Thanks.

Re: Inspired use of QR code on resume

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Post by city41 »

lean wrote: post #7
mgkimsal wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure that's 100% true. Many places may indeed skip over someone like that, but there's no law I've ever read that says "if someone sends in a picture, you can not consider them for a position". Perhaps if you know of such a law, you could post it here?

It's in the spirit of compliance with Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Any HR dept in the US will have a strict policy on this.

My resume doesn't include a picture, but it does have links to my StackOverflow profile, blog and github account. All three contain a picture of me. I've never had it be an issue while job hunting.

Re: Inspired use of QR code on resume

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Post by pieter »

Am I the only one that doesn't like QR codes? Just use a URL instead.

1) You need a smartphone to scan them. People without a phone handy can't scan them, so if you see an ad somewhere, and want to check it out later you can't just remember the URL. For example, you might not want to take out your fancy new superphone in the subway.

2) It's slow. If you have a current top-model, it might be tolerable, but it's easier to just type in a URL on many phones.

3) It only works ok in the best cases. QR-codes on non-flat packaging, or codes that you can only scan at an angle (people have different heights), or codes behind reflective glass (bus stops) are difficult to scan

4) You need an app before you can actually scan them. Right there you're already missing half your user base.

5) I don't know where the code points to. If you give me an URL, I can already know something about it (e.g. cnn.com/ad2), with a QR-code, anything could happen. No thanks.

6) It looks stupid when you're scanning the code.

Re: Inspired use of QR code on resume

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

eli wrote: post #41
thingicantsay wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you also reject an applicant who had "President of African-American Student Union" on their resume because it belies their race? Well, likely he wouldn't, but we can be sure that he would reject someone outright for having "President of the European-American Student Union", can't we? Charitably, this is because there is essentially no chance anyone would ever file a lawsuit for rejection of the second candidate…

I'm not really sure what you're saying, but it sounds mildly offensive. It's both wrong and illegal to reject a candidate based on their race, regardless of what race that is. And I am pretty sure the OP was not implying otherwise. Further, I assure you that white people file discrimination lawsuits too.

>I assure you that white people file discrimination lawsuits too.

// Out of interest have you a reference to a white person winning a race discrimination case, preferably with regard to being hired?

Also why should "an applicant who had 'President of African-American Student Union' on their resume because it belies their race?"? Surely a person of any race can be president of the African-American SU, or are they allowed to be racists?

Re: Inspired use of QR code on resume

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Post by nateberkopec »

leif wrote: post #38
parfe wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised at that mindset. The only thing a photo could do is disqualify you out of racism or ageism, or bump an unqualified person to the second round through attraction. What benefit does a company gain by knowing what an applicant looks like prior to determining if the resume makes the skills cutoff?

It's a different culture. The nice interpretation of this behavior is that companies in France (and many other places outside the US) treat you as a whole person, rather than a skill set, and therefore want to know more about you than just your education, work experience, and awards. They put more emphasis than we do on hobbies and interests outside of your domain of expertise, as well, those things are also nearly r…

"We'd like to know about your whole person... ...like whether you're hot or not."

Re: Inspired use of QR code on resume

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Post by masklinn »

pieter wrote: post #47

Am I the only one that doesn't like QR codes? Just use a URL instead. 1) You need a smartphone to scan them. People without a phone handy can't scan them, so if you see an ad somewhere, and want to check it out later you can't just remember the URL. For example, you might not want to take out your fancy new superphone in the subway. 2) It's slow. If you have a current top-model, it might be tolerable, but it's easier…

> You need a smartphone to scan them. People without a phone handy can't scan them, so if you see an ad somewhere, and want to check it out later you can't just remember the URL

No problem, just put them both. For smartphone (or at least not-completely-stupid-phone) users (which are very common in e.g. Japan, where the use of these codes is extremely widespread) qr-codes and the like are a godsend: typing a 50 characters url correctly is a pain, scanning codes is trivial and just about instantaneous.

> For example, you might not want to take out your fancy new superphone in the subway.

Not everybody lives in the bronx. That is FUD and a non-issue.

> It's slow. If you have a current top-model, it might be tolerable, but it's easier to just type in a URL on many phones.

No on both counts. Scanning a qr-code takes a few seconds, typing a URL (especially a complex one) and ensuring you get it perfectly right (allowing for a pair of errors) takes at least as long with a full keyboard. Use a 10key, and the qr-codes win handily.

On my 3 years old smartphone (iPhone 3G), it takes roughly as long to start quiQR and Safari, and from quiQR I only have to hit the "Scan" button and aim the camera at the code. In Safari, I have to dismiss the favorites (if no page is loaded yet), potentially create a new tab/page, tap the URL bar, and then copy the URL.

And as you can see in the video, it took 5s from tapping on the qr-scanning application icon to having the Youtube application open, . Would you be able to type a youtube video URL (including the dozen of semi-random characters identifier) faster without any mistake? Outlook not so good.

> You need an app before you can actually scan them.

These apps are widespread, and again in Japan (where these codes are used a lot) I believe phones can scan them natively. Similar spread of codes in western countries would likely lead to phones bundling native support for them (e.g. via image recognition built in the camera software)

> I don't know where the code points to. If you give me an URL, I can already know something about it (e.g. cnn.com/ad2), with a QR-code, anything could happen.

A qr-code is just text encoding, and it often is a URL. It makes no difference. It's trivial to pop up the textual version of the code and prompt for further action. That's what pretty much all code-scan applications I've used do.

> 6) It looks stupid when you're scanning the code.

Oh noes, the humanity. Furthermore, if you believe you look stupid when scanning a code, trust me that's nothing compared to copying a URL from a print to a phone.

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