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Re: Intel exits memory business, sale to Hynix for $9B

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real shitshow starts when the CFO becomes the CEO (as is usually the case), so Intel is pretty much dead as is US tech innovation on this scale (until VCs do what China does and start pouring money into hard stuff, not just fluffy software).

> until VCs do what China does and start pouring money into hard stuff, not just fluffy software VCs won't do that, it's not their business model. The only way out is government funding - the way it has been for decades.

5 of the "traitorous eight" from Fairchild Semiconductor were the investors who funded Intel

Re: Intel exits memory business, sale to Hynix for $9B

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> until VCs do what China does and start pouring money into hard stuff, not just fluffy software VCs won't do that, it's not their business model. The only way out is government funding - the way it has been for decades.

5 of the "traitorous eight" from Fairchild Semiconductor were the investors who funded Intel

This happened once.

Re: Intel exits memory business, sale to Hynix for $9B

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Intel's NAND flash was overshadowed by their Optane (not included in the sale) and lagging behind Hynix and Samsung, so I guess this isn't such a bad move. The cynical take is that the CFO running Intel is attempting a bunch of standard corporate restructuring strategies to delay the effects of their slowing technical innovation. It is definitely concerning from a US technical superiority standpoint to consider that…

The real shitshow starts when the CFO becomes the CEO (as is usually the case), so Intel is pretty much dead as is US tech innovation on this scale (until VCs do what China does and start pouring money into hard stuff, not just fluffy software).

Barrier to enter hardware is too high: you need a lot of investment. Then there are patents.

In China the state pushes for own hardware and they dont care about patents.

Re: Intel exits memory business, sale to Hynix for $9B

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post #5

Intel's NAND flash was overshadowed by their Optane (not included in the sale) and lagging behind Hynix and Samsung, so I guess this isn't such a bad move. The cynical take is that the CFO running Intel is attempting a bunch of standard corporate restructuring strategies to delay the effects of their slowing technical innovation. It is definitely concerning from a US technical superiority standpoint to consider that…

Unpopular opinion: Intel may be slowly dying, but this is fine and eventually happens to all ageing corporations. Looking at the technical quality of their non-x86 products, most of it was not great, so it is not surprising to see the rot spread.

Re: Intel exits memory business, sale to Hynix for $9B

#25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5 of the "traitorous eight" from Fairchild Semiconductor were the investors who funded Intel

This happened once.

Intel went on to fund 1500 more companies, 200 of which went public, one of which was Broadcom.

Re: Intel exits memory business, sale to Hynix for $9B

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post #5

Intel's NAND flash was overshadowed by their Optane (not included in the sale) and lagging behind Hynix and Samsung, so I guess this isn't such a bad move. The cynical take is that the CFO running Intel is attempting a bunch of standard corporate restructuring strategies to delay the effects of their slowing technical innovation. It is definitely concerning from a US technical superiority standpoint to consider that…

Unpopular opinion: Intel may be slowly dying, but this is fine and eventually happens to all ageing corporations. Looking at the technical quality of their non-x86 products, most of it was not great, so it is not surprising to see the rot spread.

> Looking at the technical quality of their non-x86 products, most of it was not great, so it is not surprising to see the rot spread.

What's a damn shame is Intel's StrongARM / XScale division in the early-to-mid-2000s. Methinks the world would be very different today if they continued investment in that sector - and we'd have more than just Qualcomm and Apple to contend with.

Re: Intel exits memory business, sale to Hynix for $9B

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post #7
post #5

Intel's NAND flash was overshadowed by their Optane (not included in the sale) and lagging behind Hynix and Samsung, so I guess this isn't such a bad move. The cynical take is that the CFO running Intel is attempting a bunch of standard corporate restructuring strategies to delay the effects of their slowing technical innovation. It is definitely concerning from a US technical superiority standpoint to consider that…

The real shitshow starts when the CFO becomes the CEO (as is usually the case), so Intel is pretty much dead as is US tech innovation on this scale (until VCs do what China does and start pouring money into hard stuff, not just fluffy software).

> "Intel is pretty much dead as is US tech innovation on this scale"

The US still has Apple, Nvidia, Tesla, etc. All doing world-leading stuff. I would say US tech is far from dead.

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