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Re: Transmutations observed from pressure cycling palladium

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It's evidence so incontrovertible and ironcland that the chance it is wrong (or faked) is less than the chance the outrageous claim is true. This could be close to unobtainable, for sufficiently outrageous claims. The argument I am making goes all the way back to Hume's "Of Miracles". In the specific case of Cold Fusion and the like, the evidence is further impeached by the lack of progress. What's happening looks ju…

That presupposes a correct probability, implicitly assuming the consensus model is correct. That begs the question, a fundamental cognitive mistake. The current consensus model does not deserve any privilege over any other model that also accounts for the same body of evidence. The degree of privilege afforded to it is exactly the inertia that prevents progress. Science does not need for there to be a consensus model…

The sort of scientific nihilism you are advocating there is obviously unworkable. Decisions have to be made based on SOMETHING. Science encodes the condensed wisdom of experience, so if you say don't use what we know, what process do you propose to use to decide what is worthy of investigation?

Cold Fusion requires not just one "miracle", but a stack of multiple miracles, all in contravention of existing knowledge. It requires that fusion can occur when QM calculations show it can't. It requires that excited nuclei not emit gamma radiation. It requires that energy go not into energetic charged particles (which would produce detectable secondary radiation) but somehow immediately go into the lattice of a solid, spread over large numbers of atoms.

Stack on top of that another coincidence: that despite P&F's initial results being shown to be shit, that somehow there was a pony in there somewhere anyway.

The simplest and cleanest explanation for all this LENR work is that it's nonsense driven by some combination of almost pathologic wishful thinking, incompetence, and even outright fraud.

Re: Transmutations observed from pressure cycling palladium

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That presupposes a correct probability, implicitly assuming the consensus model is correct. That begs the question, a fundamental cognitive mistake. The current consensus model does not deserve any privilege over any other model that also accounts for the same body of evidence. The degree of privilege afforded to it is exactly the inertia that prevents progress. Science does not need for there to be a consensus model…

The sort of scientific nihilism you are advocating there is obviously unworkable. Decisions have to be made based on SOMETHING. Science encodes the condensed wisdom of experience, so if you say don't use what we know, what process do you propose to use to decide what is worthy of investigation? Cold Fusion requires not just one "miracle", but a stack of multiple miracles, all in contravention of existing knowledge. I…

I don't understand what is supposed to be nihilistic about treating evidence as evidence. If it's fraud, the evidence will say so. If it's nonsense, the evidence will say so. Sometimes the evidence is fine, but is being misinterpreted, and sometimes then indicates something more interesting than had been guessed. Guessing wrong is not fraud. Reporting exactly the results you got is what is supposed to be expected, whatever the results suggest.

It took much longer than it should have to converge on the unit charge, just because everyone after Millikan was afraid to report a result too far from his.

Re: Transmutations observed from pressure cycling palladium

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The sort of scientific nihilism you are advocating there is obviously unworkable. Decisions have to be made based on SOMETHING. Science encodes the condensed wisdom of experience, so if you say don't use what we know, what process do you propose to use to decide what is worthy of investigation? Cold Fusion requires not just one "miracle", but a stack of multiple miracles, all in contravention of existing knowledge. I…

I don't understand what is supposed to be nihilistic about treating evidence as evidence. If it's fraud, the evidence will say so. If it's nonsense, the evidence will say so. Sometimes the evidence is fine, but is being misinterpreted, and sometimes then indicates something more interesting than had been guessed. Guessing wrong is not fraud. Reporting exactly the results you got is what is supposed to be expected, wh…

> I don't understand what is supposed to be nihilistic about treating evidence as evidence.

What is nihilistic is your ignoring all the previous evidence, the evidence that, as I told you, gets encoded into known physical laws. That's the problem with radical changes: they require repudiation of all that evidence, in favor of the comparatively razor thin evidence that has caught your fancy.

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