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Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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That's a little unfair, some of the comments there are thoughtful praise, just like this discussion.

Some thoughtful praise of the interview style, yes. But zero discussion of the actual content of the interview.

Good point, I missed that in your first comment because it juxtaposed a point about it being all complaints with a point about substance vs style.

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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> But rather than directly ask the naive question which we simple listeners want to ask, I want a smart interviewer to give us some quick signposts about schools of thought on this and where the interviewee probably comes from given what they've said in the past. Then you can get a deeper answer. Even, perhaps especially, when they disagree with the way in which the interviewer has framed the question. If you don't l…

Oh right, I wouldn't call my moaning here helpful advice! Nor expect everyone's tastes to agree. Maybe I'm hoping someone will tell me who I should listen to, instead.

Sometimes it‘s quite funny why you like certain people, how you weight the positive and negative attributes, because there‘s no person you like everything about. So you might dislike one person for certain attributes, but there‘s this other person you like with the same negative attributes, but in this case you don‘t weight them that much, it‘s easier to overlook them, because other positive attributes outweigh them.

So, what I‘m trying to say with this? I don‘t quite know, just a bit of a brain dump. Perhaps you‘re getting some hints for other podcasts.

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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I feel the same way at OP, amazing guests, but can't he push them a bit? What I'd like is more like what Tyler Cowen does, on non-tech subjects [1]. He gives the impression of having read all their books (and their opponents') not just having skimmed Wikipedia over breakfast. He keeps it moving, and often gets people a little bit off-balance, not aggressively, but enough to make people think afresh and not just repea…

push them on what? Lex does technical people and i dont think cowen would be able follow them, plus he steers away from politics.

I mean don't leave them on autopilot, then you get the same stump speech they have given many times. Instead push them off-trail just a bit, make them talk about some unexpected connection or comparison, so they have to think.

Agree that Cowen himself wouldn't be the right guy, at least not if you want to hear the technical side.

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Really sad to see how much of the commentary here is meta-commentary about Lex and not about the content. Several people asked, so here's the reason I chose to go on his show: it's because I love his work (frequent listener) and he's a great person. He asks good questions suitable to a wide audience and he's fun to talk to. If you don't like his show or style, then you don't have to listen to it. :-) -Chris

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Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Every time I run across an episode of this podcast I need to weigh in my interest in a great guest versus having to listen to Lex's monotone voice and meaning-of-life type questions. The disparity is amazing - the list of guests is easily the best out of any podcast that has guests that I've ever come across; and the delivery of the host is just about the worst I've come across too. I guess I'll listen to this one.

I have the same issues with Fridman. I wonder how he's able to get these A-list guests? Is it just that he's the only one in the space doing these kinds of podcasts? I heard his interview with Jim Keller (chip designer extraordinaire) and Fridman did ask some good questions, but there were also some very cringey questions and others that seemed to indicate he was out of his depth (at least with the topic at hand). In…

It is pretty clear Jim Keller did something pretty remarkable at Apple and then AMD (I know less about his work at Tesla). I tried to dig into the stuff he's said and written to understand what he did and how he did it. Say what you want about Fridman's interview style, that interview was probably the most insightful thing I found.

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Really sad to see how much of the commentary here is meta-commentary about Lex and not about the content. Several people asked, so here's the reason I chose to go on his show: it's because I love his work (frequent listener) and he's a great person. He asks good questions suitable to a wide audience and he's fun to talk to. If you don't like his show or style, then you don't have to listen to it. :-) -Chris

Big fan of your work. Yet, some more commentary on the content of the podcast: You are talking about the "Future of Computing" and you are just discussing llvm, c, c++, java, python and swift?

No Haskell, Erlang, Julia, Go ...

A bit disappointing regarding the title of the podcast, don't you think so?

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

#137

Really sad to see how much of the commentary here is meta-commentary about Lex and not about the content. Several people asked, so here's the reason I chose to go on his show: it's because I love his work (frequent listener) and he's a great person. He asks good questions suitable to a wide audience and he's fun to talk to. If you don't like his show or style, then you don't have to listen to it. :-) -Chris

Big fan of your work. Yet, some more commentary on the content of the podcast: You are talking about the "Future of Computing" and you are just discussing llvm, c, c++, java, python and swift? No Haskell, Erlang, Julia, Go ... A bit disappointing regarding the title of the podcast, don't you think so?

It's impossible to cover "all the things" in one podcast. However, I'm happy to answer specific questions if you have a specific interest.

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Really sad to see how much of the commentary here is meta-commentary about Lex and not about the content. Several people asked, so here's the reason I chose to go on his show: it's because I love his work (frequent listener) and he's a great person. He asks good questions suitable to a wide audience and he's fun to talk to. If you don't like his show or style, then you don't have to listen to it. :-) -Chris

What most of the HN community seems too misunderstand is that the very nature of being here means you're far more deeply ingrained in tech than most.

Personally I'm almost a layman when it comes to hardware and compiler technologies. When Lex asks basic questions, they are the sort of things I want to hear about.

Sure there's room for a more in-depth/challenging conversation but I don't think that Lex's podcast is the place for that. Theres probably a handful of people who would be able to challenge Chris properly (Maybe a conversation with another LLVM contributor or someone on the Swift team would be interesting).

Loved the podcast Chris, thanks for giving your time and hope you keep doing stuff like this!

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Really sad to see how much of the commentary here is meta-commentary about Lex and not about the content. Several people asked, so here's the reason I chose to go on his show: it's because I love his work (frequent listener) and he's a great person. He asks good questions suitable to a wide audience and he's fun to talk to. If you don't like his show or style, then you don't have to listen to it. :-) -Chris

I think as usual, most people who like something don't have much to say unless they really like it. Hence why this has enough up-votes to be on the front page but a relatively negative comment section.

For what it's worth, I enjoyed the interview! I wouldn't say I learned anything new, but I don't need that out of everything I listen to.

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Big fan of your work. Yet, some more commentary on the content of the podcast: You are talking about the "Future of Computing" and you are just discussing llvm, c, c++, java, python and swift? No Haskell, Erlang, Julia, Go ... A bit disappointing regarding the title of the podcast, don't you think so?

It's impossible to cover "all the things" in one podcast. However, I'm happy to answer specific questions if you have a specific interest.

True, true. Yet, I feel the podcast discusses more the current state, not the future in terms of programming/computing.

When I listened, I was wondering what is a rather obscure language you like and enjoy and why. (I still like hacking OpenDylan from time to time.

For me, Swift seems great for user interfaces and for some os applications (command line etc.). Especially Apple's SwiftUI seem to take the best of d3.js and other libraries. Swift seems perfect and very flexible for that.

Machine Learning and Signal Processing will still be dominated by Python, just because of the libraries. I'm old school and program a lot of matlab ...

Thought I would get more background on your influences and your programming culture.

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