A lot of drama here that seems to spill out into real life. Two opposing sides. But, they're largely on the same side it seems like. One seems to have made a mistake in submitting her article unknowingly to a blog that doesn't accept articles from white women, and the other wasn't happy about this or the tone from the first person.
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#12I thought everyone was supposed to read Nathanial Hawthorne’s “Scarlet Letter” in high school. Maybe it should return to being required reading.
You can tell by the way people write on the internet that they have never read a book, let alone a classic with an important lesson to learn.
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#13Well, I'm not. This is nothing but a load of racist and intersectionalist tripe uttered by a brainwashed zealot who starts her twitter bio with a preferred pronoun. It represents a lot of what went wrong between the 90's and now. The solution to these problems might just be to a) totally ignore these self-proclaimed representatives of 'oppressed' groups and b) do exactly those things which they don't want you to do. Yes, white people have just as much right to speak their minds as people of any other skin colour. The thing is, skin colour does not a person make, nor does any other inalienable characteristic. It is the content which matters, not the container that content is carried in.
So be gone, you person of pronouns. Shed your intersectionalist skin and you'll be welcomed back, keep it and prepare for a life of loneliness behind your barricades.
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#141) If people are really interested in the topic, they should read the source material and draw their own conclusions.
I thought the article's characterization of Westervelt's tweet was incorrect. The author claimed that Westervelt "inadvertently revealed how the fear of being tarred by association motivated (Westervelt) to turn on (Roost)". Instead, Westervelt's opinion comes across as more nuanced.
2) I am happy I keep semi-anonymous accounts. In an age where it's easy to be the internet villain of the day, I thank the heavens that Natural Language Processing hasn't reached the point of deanonymizing me yet.
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#16This is a big reason for Trump’s appeal - being able to rally behind someone who can so effectively withstand constant derision from all directions. Moreover, the apologists on this site and elsewhere will continue to excuse this behavior until they are backed into a corner and enclosed into a tomb of their own making.
being able to rally behind someone who can so effectively withstand constant derision from all directions
Americans love an underdog, from baseball to politics.
Whether or why Mr. Trump is an actual underdog, or plays one on TV is left as an exercise for the reader.
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#17A few thoughts here:
1. Who are all of these people? I've never heard of them. Is this a storm in a teacup, or is the implication of the article that this incident is a taste of what's to come?
2. The story seems almost too conveniently negative towards Sojwal. As someone who's well on the opposite side of radical intersectionality and radical feminism, this article feels written for people like me who will get outraged at the behaviors of the villain in the story. Makes me suspicious of actually having all of the facts and context here. Seems.. too easy?
3. Ironically, if the current trend continues, Sojwal will soon find herself in a lower intersectionality caste, and will herself be accused of taking space on platforms that are restricted to members of the BIPOC group. She, being an AA and a non-elite PoC, will not be invited.
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#18I don't mean this as a joke, but I'm actually rather hesitant to express any thoughts on this after reading it. I'll just leave it at that.
Could you imagine _any_ of the comments here HN affixed to that Twitter thread? You could seriously jeopardize your career.
What I wonder is how people can live in such wildly divergent realities? I suppose social media (which includes both Twitter and HN) plays a primary role.
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#19I am so sick of cancel culture. Roost did not deserve this.
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#20I don't really feel like this article explores the situation fully. Why are there no quotes from either Roost or Sojwal or their respective supporters? For an article that talks about the concept of keeping an open mind to the other side of a story I feel like we really only hear one side. Maybe one needs to be actively following everything that happens on Twitter in order to get the necessary context before reading this article?