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Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Every time I run across an episode of this podcast I need to weigh in my interest in a great guest versus having to listen to Lex's monotone voice and meaning-of-life type questions. The disparity is amazing - the list of guests is easily the best out of any podcast that has guests that I've ever come across; and the delivery of the host is just about the worst I've come across too. I guess I'll listen to this one.

I have the same issues with Fridman. I wonder how he's able to get these A-list guests? Is it just that he's the only one in the space doing these kinds of podcasts? I heard his interview with Jim Keller (chip designer extraordinaire) and Fridman did ask some good questions, but there were also some very cringey questions and others that seemed to indicate he was out of his depth (at least with the topic at hand). In…

i like him but essentially he started the podcast with interviewing someone for a class he was teaching at MIT. MIT has some of the smartest people in the world on the faculty or visiting to give lectures, which gave him easy access to interview them.

And after getting the ball rolling its not hard to get new guests by listing your previous guests as well as your view counts.

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That discussion only has complaints about the interviewing style. This discussion has a few comments about the substance. Not many, but more than none.

That's a little unfair, some of the comments there are thoughtful praise, just like this discussion.

Some thoughtful praise of the interview style, yes. But zero discussion of the actual content of the interview.

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Early in the interview Lattner does a great job of selling Swift. Value types (with copy on write), progressive disclosure, ... I think Swift is a great language but the lack of cross platform development is holding it back.

I don't know Swift at all. But I know what progressive disclosure is. Could you explain a bit what you mean for a programming language to have progressive disclosure, and how specifically Swift does that?

Chris defines it in the interview, I think, but I think of it as: Swift is a complex language with lots of features, but if you are trying to do something simple, you do not need to engage with the more complex features of the language. As you learn or need to solve more complex problems, those complex features are waiting for you.

His example is a Hello World program in Swift vs something like C++.

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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I would never have guessed Lex would get so much hate here. No one forces you to listen to him and his guests. And it is probably not despite his interviewing style but because of it that so many excellent people talk to him. Can we please discuss the content? I have one hour to go and Julia has not been mentioned, though it seems to check many of the boxes they are talking about (high quality libraries that feel lik…

Yes, I don't remember Julia being mentioned. Also, Elixir/Erlang isn't mentioned when they talked about actor based concurrency. Neither is Rust which has some simultaneity with swift. They also didn't really talk about problems with swift (adoption for example). Overall this talk is very surface level in my opinion, which is why I think some critique on Lex is valid.

He had the opportunity to dive in deeper on some topics - but didn't really do so. It just could have been better.

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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I'm surprised by the negativity on this thread, so I just want to mention that I think this is an awesome podcast, and I get a lot of value and entertainment out of it. For this episode in particular, I thought the conversation about RISC-V and Swift were both really interesting. For people that feel the need to continually troll Lex for his voice and interviewing style, you are free to create your own podcast if you think you can do a better job.

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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I love his podcast. Episode with Joscha Bach is the best one so far - Joscha is an excellent fit for type of questions Lex tends to ask

Thanks, never heard that name but I will definitely listen to the episode!

In case it helps: https://lexfridman.com/joscha-bach/

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Every time I run across an episode of this podcast I need to weigh in my interest in a great guest versus having to listen to Lex's monotone voice and meaning-of-life type questions. The disparity is amazing - the list of guests is easily the best out of any podcast that has guests that I've ever come across; and the delivery of the host is just about the worst I've come across too. I guess I'll listen to this one.

Tip no.1 for getting great guests

Not denigrating people in public...

Many great things about Lex. One I like most is his quickness to ask basic questions. Chris Lattner mentions it as a great trait of his own -- sincerely trying to learn, rather than impress you

So well done Lex

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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I would never have guessed Lex would get so much hate here. No one forces you to listen to him and his guests. And it is probably not despite his interviewing style but because of it that so many excellent people talk to him. Can we please discuss the content? I have one hour to go and Julia has not been mentioned, though it seems to check many of the boxes they are talking about (high quality libraries that feel lik…

Yes, I don't remember Julia being mentioned. Also, Elixir/Erlang isn't mentioned when they talked about actor based concurrency. Neither is Rust which has some simultaneity with swift. They also didn't really talk about problems with swift (adoption for example). Overall this talk is very surface level in my opinion, which is why I think some critique on Lex is valid. He had the opportunity to dive in deeper on some…

I personally found almost all points they were talking about interesting. Sure, I also often get the feeling that they should dive deeper on a particular topic, or that a certain point raises more questions than it answers but then again we are clocking in at almost 3h already and I am not sure how far the term „long form content“ can (or should) be stretched

Re: Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming Languages [audio]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the guests would feel in the same way, then they wouldn’t be talking with Lex. I am often reminded of this anecdote: "Von Neumann would carry on a conversation with my 3-year-old son, and the two of them would talk as equals, and I sometimes wondered if he used the same principle when he talked to the rest of us." (Teller) > how great minds answer these "simple" questions can be quite interesting Yes for sure. B…

> But rather than directly ask the naive question which we simple listeners want to ask, I want a smart interviewer to give us some quick signposts about schools of thought on this and where the interviewee probably comes from given what they've said in the past. Then you can get a deeper answer. Even, perhaps especially, when they disagree with the way in which the interviewer has framed the question. If you don't l…

Oh right, I wouldn't call my moaning here helpful advice! Nor expect everyone's tastes to agree.

Maybe I'm hoping someone will tell me who I should listen to, instead.

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