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Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by varispeed »

veselin wrote: post #11

I own two XPS developer edition laptops. The second one is up for an upgrade and the CPU is the one thing that is its weakest spot (Kaby Lake in my case), often on its limit when using Zoom for example and runs hot. But I think that with such minor upgrades of the CPU, I will tell bye to Dell. This is the advantage of good competition. I still wonder if Dell would push a model with Zen in the next say 6 months before…

I am going with XPS as well. Honestly I couldn't find a better laptop at the time with features that are important to me, but even so it is still a nightmare to use. It runs hot, can't play HD videos on YT (Google doesn't support hardware decoding in Chrome) and I couldn't get NVidia drivers to work properly. I am going to buy a laptop with AMD cpu next year. I hope that if more people do it Dell will finally drop Intel. I cannot support a company that wastes money they are overcharging and not doing any research to improve their products. 5 years or so of the same CPUs just with different packaging and minor tweaks is just beyond joke.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by tedfernau »

sippingjippers wrote: post #23

I moved to XPS 15 as my first non-Mac machine in over 10 years, and I must say I'm far from impressed by the build quality. These laptops are gorgeous new, but they are SO fragile. One of the screen hinges is broken, I've replaced numerous keys, the keyboard is now developing some debounce/key registration issue all over the right-hand side, the speakers are both blown (left first then the right), the trackpad sits 0…

I have also experienced this with an old studio 1555 and xps 17. My current machine, a dell precision 17 is much better quality (and more expensive)

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by UncleOxidant »

trentnix wrote: post #34
sippingjippers wrote: post #23

I moved to XPS 15 as my first non-Mac machine in over 10 years, and I must say I'm far from impressed by the build quality. These laptops are gorgeous new, but they are SO fragile. One of the screen hinges is broken, I've replaced numerous keys, the keyboard is now developing some debounce/key registration issue all over the right-hand side, the speakers are both blown (left first then the right), the trackpad sits 0…

That trackpad issue sounds like a swollen battery.

Yep. Had this problem on my 2013 XPS 13 last year. Replace the battery before it gets worse. It's pretty easy to do yourself.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by d12345m »

kzrdude wrote: post #21
sz4kerto wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to buy an expensive laptop with only 16G RAM.

Why not? The only thing that really eats ram is chrome tabs

I function in a data analysis role and the only place I typically get to crunch number is my own laptop.

Running a Docker container for SQL Server and doing some work with pandas will eat up my 16gb pretty easily.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by sippingjippers »

trentnix wrote: post #34
sippingjippers wrote: post #23

I moved to XPS 15 as my first non-Mac machine in over 10 years, and I must say I'm far from impressed by the build quality. These laptops are gorgeous new, but they are SO fragile. One of the screen hinges is broken, I've replaced numerous keys, the keyboard is now developing some debounce/key registration issue all over the right-hand side, the speakers are both blown (left first then the right), the trackpad sits 0…

That trackpad issue sounds like a swollen battery.

I'm an idiot, this hadn't even occurred to me. Thanks

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by michaellarabel »

jeffbee wrote: post #33
michaellarabel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any good repeatable use-cases around your GeoJSON that would work well for automated benchmark case? I"m always interested in adding more benchmarks... If you have any good test cases that would work well, happy to add them to the Phoronix Test Suite - report it @ https://github.com/phoronix-test-suite/test-profiles/issues and will look at the workloads. Thanks.

What's the acceptable amount of test data in these suites? I feel like grinding through 20GB of GIS is something that happens to me with certain frequency, but it might not fit in your repo.

If there's a public mirror of the data-set available, not too much concern given that the downloads only happen when the user requests running said test.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by bluedino »

meddlepal wrote: post #40
sippingjippers wrote: post #23

I moved to XPS 15 as my first non-Mac machine in over 10 years, and I must say I'm far from impressed by the build quality. These laptops are gorgeous new, but they are SO fragile. One of the screen hinges is broken, I've replaced numerous keys, the keyboard is now developing some debounce/key registration issue all over the right-hand side, the speakers are both blown (left first then the right), the trackpad sits 0…

The fragility of Dell's consumer laptops is why I continue to buy Lenovo's which are less sleek but have better durability and run Linux just fine. In recent memory I've had an X1 Carbon and X1 Carbon Extreme Gen 1 and been very satisfied.

Lenovo parts availability is a huge plus over Dell as well. Second hand or repair parts are hard to find for them.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by rsa25519 »

sippingjippers wrote: post #23

I moved to XPS 15 as my first non-Mac machine in over 10 years, and I must say I'm far from impressed by the build quality. These laptops are gorgeous new, but they are SO fragile. One of the screen hinges is broken, I've replaced numerous keys, the keyboard is now developing some debounce/key registration issue all over the right-hand side, the speakers are both blown (left first then the right), the trackpad sits 0…

I have an XPS 13. I paid for the default "basic warranty." This week my fans started wobbling, causing lots of noise. I called Dell, told them I was using Linux, then they immediately offered to send someone in-person (with pandemic safety precautions) to fix it. And they did. It took 15 minutes for my fan to be replaced once they arrived. The person was very helpful, and they improved my boot time, too, by setting the clock in my BIOS.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by sz4kerto »

imhoguy wrote: post #39
sz4kerto wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to buy an expensive laptop with only 16G RAM.

HP Elitebook 845/855 AMD support 32GB RAM officially, but they have 2 SODIMM slots so theoretically should support 64GB. One thing to watch out with Linux on HP laptops with AMD currently are problems with standby mode. They lack S3 deep sleep power state - only provide S2Idle so called Modern Standby. Although there are ways to mod ACPI tables there is still some black screen issue when the return from suspend happe…

48G means single channel RAM, which slows down the GPU a lot.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by kristianp »

vetinari wrote: post #9
sz4kerto wrote: post #2

I'll buy one of these. Not because of the CPU -- despite of that. Ryzen would be great but there's no thin&light Ryzen laptop with great screen and great build. Not sure why. However, apart from the performance disadvantage (that's not extremely serious), the 9310 is a great package overall (or at least I can't find anything more compelling on the market with good battery life, good screen, good docking story (TB), g…

There's going to be Thinkpad X1 Nano this December, it also looks very interesting.

The X1 carbon is lighter than the xps 13, due to not having a metal shell. I think 14 inch screen is small enough, that's just my preference of course.
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