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Charisma: Now You’ve Got It, Now You Don’t

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Re: Charisma: Now You’ve Got It, Now You Don’t

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Ernst Röhm was the 2nd most important nazi before the night of the long knives and was an out homosexual[0]. The gayness of the nazis was a source of jokes and criticisms from the beginning. The pro-homosexual bias of fascists are so obvious, there are even books, generally by religious people, which assert, with considerable evidence, that fascism was entirely a homosexual phenomenon. This sort of thing doesn't fit…

I'm not joking. For instance, gambling[1] is something I don't do, but I would +4 the hypothetical question: 8': There is absolutely nothing wrong with casinos. Indeed, my wife and I used to eat at the casino, because their kitchen was open late. If I had more reservations, say related to addiction potential[2], maybe I'd only +1 it, but I wouldn't give it a high negative score, which would be necessary to score an o…

You're engaging in solipsism here; the point isn't whether or not you think pre-marital chastity is acceptable or not (I bet there's a question in this goofball RWA book asserting that it's not OK) -the point is the nazis were nudists[0] and homophiles, making absolute nonsense of those questions as any kind of meaningful measurement of "RWA." Again, as I said in the first place; this seems to be a simple list of late 20th century center left bigotries about what American religious people are like rather than anything to do with "authoritarianism."

Despite people who tell me about the TEETH CHATTERING ATROCITIES of the nazi pork butchers ... saying things on twitter ... every sign of authoritarianism I see; from corporate fascism, to the idiots burning the cities down and toppling statues: every last one of them would have scored more like you on that scale as very open minded and accepting people, and less like some random Pentacostal who thinks foamy buttsex is kind of gross, but who doesn't bother anyone and who this scale would denounce as "authoritarian." If words like "authoritarian" are to retain their ordinary meanings, your scale goes into the dumpster, and you must refrain from ever referring to it again. It is a simple measure of WEIRD[1] psychological tendencies. Not "authoritarianism."

[0] better reference: referring to Nazi nudist societies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freik%C3%B6rperkultur#Naturism...

[1] again: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/10/joseph-...

Re: Charisma: Now You’ve Got It, Now You Don’t

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I'm not joking. For instance, gambling[1] is something I don't do, but I would +4 the hypothetical question: 8': There is absolutely nothing wrong with casinos. Indeed, my wife and I used to eat at the casino, because their kitchen was open late. If I had more reservations, say related to addiction potential[2], maybe I'd only +1 it, but I wouldn't give it a high negative score, which would be necessary to score an o…

You're engaging in solipsism here; the point isn't whether or not you think pre-marital chastity is acceptable or not (I bet there's a question in this goofball RWA book asserting that it's not OK) -the point is the nazis were nudists[0] and homophiles, making absolute nonsense of those questions as any kind of meaningful measurement of "RWA." Again, as I said in the first place; this seems to be a simple list of lat…

A clip for all who have ever felt persecuted by bigotry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9XdGS5to8s

> ... your scale goes into the dumpster, and you must refrain from ever referring to it again

Since you put it that baldly, how about a solomonic reference instead?

"Envy thou not the oppressor, and choose none of his ways." (Prov.3:31)

Na wanya kom sif inya, unte go dawe im natim.

Bonus clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MPtXUeUznY

Re: Charisma: Now You’ve Got It, Now You Don’t

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> Most of the mediocrely talented but very successful people I know get by with high charisma. Or putting in many more hours than others. I think I do both! I'm extremely charismatic but imo not that bright so coast on personality but sometimes fall back on working lots of hours. My charisma story is that I was very naturally attractive but then had an accident and gained a large % of bodyweight while bedridden for o…

Going bald pretty much did the same for me haha. It's very interesting, and disturbing, how differently people treat traditionally attractive people and unattractive/less people.

> It's very interesting, and disturbing, how differently people treat traditionally attractive people and unattractive/less people.

Yes! I had a group at work of a core team. One guy who, in retrospect held me by the hand and led me along stupidvising as I learned a new system. He gave me endless attention and tutoring, celebrated wins and helped redirect when I messed up without ever getting upset. When I came back to work after having gained, he was weird and cold and blunt, and was way more demanding and curt in his feedback.

What really opened my eyes was when I lost again, suddenly I had my patient and thoughtful "mentor" back. It was disheartening, to be honest... just a feeling of sadness for humanity on how many opportunities the unattractive don't have offered to them on silver platters.

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