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Animation of how bridges were built in Central Europe in the Middle Ages [video]

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The one thing I don't understand is how the original posts were driven into the river bed. You have to deal with the current, deal with the fact that wood floats, deal with a long post, have to have a means of driving it down far enough, etc. I imagine that nowadays they'd use a pile driver on a huge barge with engines that can automatically compensate for the current, but I can't imagine what the equivalent was back…

You could pre-soak the wood so it's less buoyant, and hold a barge in place with ropes to the riverbanks. I'm not saying that's how they did it, but that's what I would try if I were them. You'd also want to pick the right season when the water flow was the least. You might even be able to dredge a channel so that the water is directed away from the position of the supports. I doubt they had a means of controlling the river flow back then, so I doubt they could have redirected the river into a temporary side channel, but that could also help if possible.

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Very, very, very true. The light of civilization is a flickering candle in the darkness I often think about the city-states along the Silk Road: healthy, peaceful, cultured, unprecedented prosperity for their time. All defeated when the hordes of Genghis Kahn rode by, many utterly destroyed The Empire of Mali. The Kingdom of Lithuania. Macedon. Tyre. Babylon. Carthage. Samarkand. Assyria. All once mighty, all gone, p…

> The Empire of Mali. The Kingdom of Lithuania. Macedon. Tyre. Babylon. Carthage. Samarkand. Assyria. All once mighty, all gone, perhaps a place-name remains, if that Aside from perhaps Macedon and Carthage (indirectly via Rome) most of those don't even warrant a mention in the high school history curriculum (in the US, at least).

history starts at 1700 when columbus discovered indians?

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Our brains decreased by a golf ball size in the past couple thousand years. It is much easier for stupid people to survive today.

It is well known that Sperm Whales have long ago figured out how to unify quantum physics and general relativity. They could tell us small-brained humans but apparently they enjoy watching us struggle.

Brain size does correlate with intelligence WITHIN a species.

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Our brains decreased by a golf ball size in the past couple thousand years. It is much easier for stupid people to survive today.

Neural density seems to be what matters.

Yeah, people seem to be getting denser by the year.

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Here is the video source [0]. Its description says "3D graphics and post-production: Tomáš Mustlek Professional cooperation: Ing. Arch. Ondřej Šefců Graphic cooperation: Mgr. Zdeněk Mazač More information about Charles Bridge can be found at http://praha-archeologicka.cz/p/212 The digital model "Charles Bridge - construction of a pillar and vault field in the 14th century" was created for the project of the virtual e…

Another video showing dioramas and construction techniques, from Muzeum Karlova most and other sources.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1TDhX6tu30M

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I know some of the bureaucracy and economics that go into infrastructure today, but I feel like the decision to commit to a 45 year bridge must've been a whole different consideration for them back then. But then again, they spent much labor and resources creating tombs like the Pyramids.

How about the cathedrals that are scattered across Europe? Some took centuries. People worked on them their whole lives knowing they’d never see the end result. Compared to that, a 45-year bridge seems quick and practical.

Sagrada Família, begun in 1882, is not planned to be complete until 2032.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagrada_Família

Washington National Cathedral was completed over 83 years, 1907--1990.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_National_Cathedral

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If you think the 3-minute video was slow, the actual original took 45 years.

I know some of the bureaucracy and economics that go into infrastructure today, but I feel like the decision to commit to a 45 year bridge must've been a whole different consideration for them back then. But then again, they spent much labor and resources creating tombs like the Pyramids.

Maybe projects like that are way easier to stomach when people stick around? The lord who ordered its construction or his son will preside the entire time, and I would imagine the builders would be building it until they retire or finish it. Any modern 45 year old project would probably have every job position involved in it (including, I would imagine, whoever was financing it) change people multiple times

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Those little intermediate piers were probably the slowest part of the on site work. And the most vulnerable part of the bridge, because that's what gets eroded. It's still the biggest cause of bridge failure.

Makes me wonder if they've been done in parallel or serially. Also, I'd love to know how the bridge was designed. How did they figure out the shapes of the supporting structure, or location of the piers? Etc. We have this knowledge systematized today, but we use mathematics in a form that was developed much later than those bridges.

Makes me wonder if they've been done in parallel or serially.

Depends on the site, probably.

Driving the first piles had to have been a tough job. Still, Caesar's legions did it to cross the Rhine in 55 BC. So pile-driving in water was being done a long time ago.

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If you think the 3-minute video was slow, the actual original took 45 years.

I know some of the bureaucracy and economics that go into infrastructure today, but I feel like the decision to commit to a 45 year bridge must've been a whole different consideration for them back then. But then again, they spent much labor and resources creating tombs like the Pyramids.

Can you imagine it in an agile world? The value was being delivered by the ferries the whole time.
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