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Re: AWS forked my project and launched it as its own service

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I think thatguyagain is making a good point about infinite regress. Should we all add a thank you to our github pages, thanking every dependency, library, framework, to Stroustrup, to Stallman, to Linus, and to John von Neumann?

Yes there needs to be a blockchain named gratitude; the shoulders of giants

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Re: AWS forked my project and launched it as its own service

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I really wish, that when COs like Amazon decided to productize a thing they either offered the core developer(s) enough $ to work on it full time (if they wanted) or a job to do that with a guarantee that as long as it was a product, and they wanted to work on it, they'd be allowed to continue. Problem with offering job is the likelyhood of getting redirected to some other unrelated work. instead of forking they coul…

It seems like you're arguing that people should get both the good will of having an open source license and the profits of a closed source license. Which comes across as disingenuous.

Re: AWS forked my project and launched it as its own service

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Could everyone take a moment here and reflect on their hostile attitude towards an open source author who just wants to be treated fairly (in a moral sense)? My guess is that none of the people who are lecturing and gloating have ever written anything substantial. Shame on you.

> open source author who just wants to be treated fairly

How is it not treated fairly in a moral sense?

I don’t think many comments are hostile. The title is entirely clickbait, and for generating PR for the author.

Re: AWS forked my project and launched it as its own service

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I really wish, that when COs like Amazon decided to productize a thing they either offered the core developer(s) enough $ to work on it full time (if they wanted) or a job to do that with a guarantee that as long as it was a product, and they wanted to work on it, they'd be allowed to continue. Problem with offering job is the likelyhood of getting redirected to some other unrelated work. instead of forking they coul…

It seems like you're arguing that people should get both the good will of having an open source license and the profits of a closed source license. Which comes across as disingenuous.

No, it's just good sense. If you're adopting an open source project then you clearly think the project has merit. So the people who created this project should be considered for maintaining the company fork, since they clearly know what they're doing.

Re: AWS forked my project and launched it as its own service

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Legally no, morally yes

Legally no, morally no, ethically yes?

I feel like this is an underrated distinction. While definitions vary, this way of looking at it resonates pretty strongly with me, personally.

Re: AWS forked my project and launched it as its own service

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Situations like this make me wonder why no one has created an open source license with a clause excluding multi billion dollar companies. If your company makes more than, say, $50 billion in revenue per year or something crazy like that, then you need to pay for a license. Everyone else can use the free license. Amazon in particular is well known to be aggressively anti-competitive, as we saw with the Diapers.com fia…

There was a discussion a few weeks back about TimescaleDB doing a "Cloud Protection License", which seems to mean that they reserve the right to offer the product in a cloud offering. Seemed to me like a good compromise.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24579628

https://blog.timescale.com/blog/building-open-source-busines...

Re: AWS forked my project and launched it as its own service

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I run the open source strategy and marketing team at AWS. As I told Tim privately and publicly ( https://twitter.com/mjasay/status/1317084448119169024 ), I hadn't been aware of this but am talking with the relevant product team to see how we can improve in his regard. AWS uses a lot of open source, and we contribute a lot, both in terms of code (first-party projects like Firecracker and Bottlerocket, but also third-p…

I know Matt. I'm impressed that AWS hired him for this. That's a promising sign.

Re: AWS forked my project and launched it as its own service

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post #353

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Legally no, morally yes

Legally no, morally no, ethically yes?

Ethically yes — simply because it will be in their best interest to do so over time.

That's why "Amazon can do better." Not to act more altruistically, but to do better. If they keep doing things like this, it won't be good for them.

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