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Slow map: Mapping Britain's intercity footpaths

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Re: Slow map: Mapping Britain's intercity footpaths

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But where is the actual data? All that this site has is some photos, I find no maps.

"We are currently working on building a website that will host all of the routes and hope to launch that later this year."

I call bullshit (somewhat imprudently). I don't understand why they can already put together some professional looking photos, but are not yet willing to release the interesting data.

Re: Slow map: Mapping Britain's intercity footpaths

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The project page: https://slowways.uk/ As they say, there are many paths in the UK but it can take a lot of research to find long routes that don't leave you on a busy road with no pavement. I hope this project is a success and can't wait to use it.

Yes. Or some footpaths cross major roads with no real crossing in place.

It's a bit scary using this foot path crossing, especially in poor weather or at night. Cars can travel at 70 mph (112 km/h) on this road.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6832617,-1.9031193,3a,75y,...

Re: Slow map: Mapping Britain's intercity footpaths

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We are currently working on building a website that will host all of the routes and hope to launch that later this year."

I call bullshit (somewhat imprudently). I don't understand why they can already put together some professional looking photos, but are not yet willing to release the interesting data.

There are plenty of companies that’ll create a professional looking website for your product, whether it exists or not. That doesn’t mean anything.

What I find more surprising is announcing such a project if there is no result yet, now they get buzz and create disappointment and I don’t see what they gain for it.

Re: Slow map: Mapping Britain's intercity footpaths

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Most people in the United Kingdom would be using Ordnance Survey. Also, I think Ordnance Survey's record of the use of these footpaths has significant weight in keeping them legally protected. So Ordnance Survey is the best tool here.

In fact each county maintains its own 'definitive map' of public rights of way. That's how they're protected. This is mine https://explorer.geowessex.com/?layers=48&basemap=26 Definitive maps https://www.ramblers.org.uk/advice/paths-in-england-and-wale...

For those who don't know, the Rambler Association has been fighting for new and ancient foot paths and "rights to roam" for 90 years in the UK.

England in particular has a long and complex history of land being gifted by royalty and clergy to sycophants leading to the rest of us being screwed over for literally a thousand years!

Green and pleasant land indeed!

Re: Slow map: Mapping Britain's intercity footpaths

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I call bullshit (somewhat imprudently). I don't understand why they can already put together some professional looking photos, but are not yet willing to release the interesting data.

There are plenty of companies that’ll create a professional looking website for your product, whether it exists or not. That doesn’t mean anything. What I find more surprising is announcing such a project if there is no result yet, now they get buzz and create disappointment and I don’t see what they gain for it.

That was my point. Announcing that something will (i.e. may) be available in the future is a sure way to shoot yourself in the foot and lose a lot of sympathy.

Re: Slow map: Mapping Britain's intercity footpaths

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post #3

Now, if only there was a project to deliver freely licensed maps of the world... Let's call it, idk, OpenStreetMap? Sounds cool :^)

Most people in the United Kingdom would be using Ordnance Survey. Also, I think Ordnance Survey's record of the use of these footpaths has significant weight in keeping them legally protected. So Ordnance Survey is the best tool here.

The OS maps include all legally-designated public rights of way, and some permissive paths. It doesn't show if they're passable, safe or easy to use.

Re: Slow map: Mapping Britain's intercity footpaths

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post #3

Now, if only there was a project to deliver freely licensed maps of the world... Let's call it, idk, OpenStreetMap? Sounds cool :^)

OSM shows all of the paths. It doesn't say which are the best ones to use.

OSM has a lot of metadata about the paths that could be used to indicate which ones are best.

Re: Slow map: Mapping Britain's intercity footpaths

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post #3

Now, if only there was a project to deliver freely licensed maps of the world... Let's call it, idk, OpenStreetMap? Sounds cool :^)

Most people in the United Kingdom would be using Ordnance Survey. Also, I think Ordnance Survey's record of the use of these footpaths has significant weight in keeping them legally protected. So Ordnance Survey is the best tool here.

Except OS data is surprisingly badly suited to this.

OS doesn't have a topological (=connected, routable) database of public rights of way. The green lines you see drawn on a Landranger map are just that: lines on a map. I don't need to explain how having a routable database would make a project like Slow Ways so much simpler.

OS, of course, doesn't have accessibility information like stiles, gates, or surface quality, which OSM often has.

I love OS maps, but they are increasingly being marginalised to B2B applications (particularly utilities) and keen walkers. Most UK cyclists have migrated to OSM and, judging from people I see out and about here in the Cotswolds, casual walkers are increasingly going that way too.

Re: Slow map: Mapping Britain's intercity footpaths

#30
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We are currently working on building a website that will host all of the routes and hope to launch that later this year."

I call bullshit (somewhat imprudently). I don't understand why they can already put together some professional looking photos, but are not yet willing to release the interesting data.

"During lockdown 700 volunteers from across the country collaborated to produce a first draft of the Slow Ways. This incredible effort has led to the creation of 7,500 routes that collectively stretch for over 110,000km."

The map visible is from the first draft. I don't know why they haven't released the first draft, but it could be that they don't want to release potentially unsafe routes. The pretty website is designed to entice volunteers, which is why "Up for helping us?" is front and centre. It led me to sign up.

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