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Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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SEO companies are big customers of products like this. Scraping Google at scale requires a huge budget for proxies and IP blocks, and I believe they apply ML to detect people abusing their service.

I can confirm that, scraping Google instantly needs huge effort and money. In our best we can scrape 2500 SERP per IP. But i must say using proxy services and other things did not helped us much. Because most of them were banned before we use.

How does it wotk out for IPv6?

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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If its P2P it means it uses other peoples' nodes as your exit node, sort of like Tor but without the onions. That's risky. What happens to me if someone does something illegal via my connection? How could I prove it wasn't me? Maybe I could win in court by citing my use of something like this, but I really don't want to be dragged into court in the first place even if I end up walking out.

This seems like a decent tool to use in an oppressed, non-free country.

Except Tor (or Whonix or Tails), WireGuard, or ZeroTier are a better option.

All of these allow better management (and therefore control) of routes.

There is a very good reason Usenet does not require uploading, and P2P protocols like BitTorrent are used with a VPN. It provides a reasonable enough protection against a civil actor such as RIAA and MPAA while a determined actor (with more control over the used networks can dig up the data trail. Ie. police in case of serious crimes such as CP.

On a somewhat related note what was the name of the end of 90s pseudonymous network where you had to buy a 'nym' and could renew it for money?

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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Thanks! > We're working on a way to disallow users from acting as exits for certain kinds of traffic - so you'll be able to categorically block certain kinds of sites through the UI in the near future. How does this stop someone posting ISIS propaganda to Twitter? Or uploading CP to Google Drive? > Even with DoH on by default in the browser, we can still override / specify a DNS server. Can you? Browsers don’t respec…

Posted a bit about how we plan to approach this above, so just re-pasting: > - we plan to build in something similar to HTTPS Everywhere to the product, to automatically upgrade connections (and we only route traffic on ports 80 / 443 (optionally 53)). - we also plan to build in the ability to allow peers to block certain categories of traffic from going over their connection (using blocklists similar to those used b…

You do realize you can get people in trouble for proxying traffic even to legit websites? Like, get someone a visit from the cops because someone else used their connection committed wire fraud on an auction site.

Your product is irresponsible.

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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post #101

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I can confirm that, scraping Google instantly needs huge effort and money. In our best we can scrape 2500 SERP per IP. But i must say using proxy services and other things did not helped us much. Because most of them were banned before we use.

How does it wotk out for IPv6?

Complete /64's get blocked.

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

#105
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This is all very unexpected actually! (No one from FreeVPN made the post here!) We've been doing some early market testing in a few Linux communities on Reddit, but full disclosure, the product is currently in an early-alpha stage (it’s only available on Ubuntu and Gentoo Linux currently, and very much under construction). We have big ambitions for the project, but it is still very early days. Love hearing the feedba…

Hello, Ian "Every user is exit node" concept in addition to legal question raises more practical questions. What are you going to do if majority for your users (and when you call something "free" the chance increases) will be from countries like China, Russia, Iran and other where government controls and blocks a lot of the websites and services? And I'm talking not about surveillance but about actual block of the IP…

Semantics. It's not FreeVPN (the organisation) who are throttling or bottlenecking you, it's the node you're connected to.

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

#106
For people who are even considering this as a nice service: setup a tor exit node and let it run for a week or so (takes time before it will actually route traffic through your new node) and experience the no more Netflix, captchas left and right and possible issues with your ISP & local law enforcement.

If you for a minute think this / your IP address will not be misused to scrape, grief, DDoS, up & download "questionable content", you are very wrong.

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

#107

For people who are even considering this as a nice service: setup a tor exit node and let it run for a week or so (takes time before it will actually route traffic through your new node) and experience the no more Netflix, captchas left and right and possible issues with your ISP & local law enforcement. If you for a minute think this / your IP address will not be misused to scrape, grief, DDoS, up & download "questi…

I would only host this kind of node on one of my VPS, no way I'm routing everyone's traffic through my home ISP anyway.

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

#108
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I actually don't think I would need to make a ridiculous amount of requests. The project is a pinning service where people submit a video URL so they can do things like manage lists of the videos they watch (think goodreads for web videos). I need to scrape the video description and tags for each submitted URL. It would be nice to just do it from the user's browser, but the same origin policy won't allow that. A brow…

This sounds like your would be better of using Youtube's API https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/getting-started

Yes, I was going to mention this. I worked for a small company that had a YouTube product that retrieved video descriptions, duration, thumbnail, etc, using the API.

We started with 100k daily API calls and that got later increased to 1 million after requesting it.

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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Some other sketchy bits, from a very quick perusal: * Shelling out[1] to some tool that may be responsible for all of the heavy networking bits[2] * Falling back on a non-monotonic clock but calling it monotonic[3] * Another sketchy shellout[4] that calls a bunch of scripts with trivial interpolation/injection bugs[5]. It's not clear if the arguments passed to those scripts are remotely controllable, but it's sketchy…

To be fair, ZeroTier isn't just "some tool". It has a solid reputation. The founder (api) is actually here in the thread.

What about Zerotier 2.0 btw? Was supposed to surface before summer, but seems to have stalled. Might actually be relevant as more people are working from home now.

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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post #107

For people who are even considering this as a nice service: setup a tor exit node and let it run for a week or so (takes time before it will actually route traffic through your new node) and experience the no more Netflix, captchas left and right and possible issues with your ISP & local law enforcement. If you for a minute think this / your IP address will not be misused to scrape, grief, DDoS, up & download "questi…

I would only host this kind of node on one of my VPS, no way I'm routing everyone's traffic through my home ISP anyway.

If you paid with your credit card on your VPS you still might be in hot water.
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