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> Note that transfer of 1GB of data produces 3kg of CO2.
This is wrong, it's closer to 29 grams of CO2 for 1GB, on average. Of course it depends on the mix of power sources used.
https://www.iea.org/commentaries/the-carbon-footprint-of-str...
It doesn't change the point of the comparison, the smaller size is still good.
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For $100K in total, a tiny marketing budget those companies could have shown some good will towards Open Source. I wonder if the author actually contacted those companies. That is less than $3K from each of those customers listed.
Given the author wants to release Sciter under GPL, unless twice as many funds are raised, I fail to see the incentive for any company to fund this. GPL + commercial licensing model changes nothing for commercial product developers.
I'm not sure I understand your comment. This is an Electron alternative. Is it common for companies to release modified versions of Electron? I admit I don't work in this space, but I thought the point of Electron is to make it possible to distribute a web app as a "native" app. Why would a company dig into the source code and develop a modified version of Electron rather than simply use it as a tool to distribute their app?
Shipping .exe and .dll directly in github source repo?
It looks like the author was trying to crowd-fund open-sourcing this project: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/c-smile/open-source-sci... I think we'd be better off trying to slim down Chromium or reviving the idea of using the built-in OS WebView control (which is mostly Chromium nowadays anyway), at least that would be a standard web environment.
Only windows :(
Real shame, Sciter is one of the strongest options out there since its coded natively on each platform and the web engine is added on top.
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Given the author wants to release Sciter under GPL, unless twice as many funds are raised, I fail to see the incentive for any company to fund this. GPL + commercial licensing model changes nothing for commercial product developers.
> GPL + commercial licensing model changes nothing for commercial product developers. I'm not sure I understand your comment. This is an Electron alternative. Is it common for companies to release modified versions of Electron? I admit I don't work in this space, but I thought the point of Electron is to make it possible to distribute a web app as a "native" app. Why would a company dig into the source code and devel…
Sciter is a very nice engine with a solid API/SDK and rock solid engineering behind it. For developers building efficient UI apps it can be a real alternative method to things like electron or as a lighter alternative to QT with QML script. However until now it was only available under commercial licence. Andrew Fedoniouk ( a.k.a. c-smile Sciter's original developer) has a kickstarter to fund open sourcing and suppor…
Sciter is a very nice engine with a solid API/SDK and rock solid engineering behind it. For developers building efficient UI apps it can be a real alternative method to things like electron or as a lighter alternative to QT with QML script. However until now it was only available under commercial licence. Andrew Fedoniouk ( a.k.a. c-smile Sciter's original developer) has a kickstarter to fund open sourcing and suppor…
55 hours to go and not even a third of the goal completed. I’m an optimistic guy but I don’t see this happening. EDIT: I wouldn’t mind being wrong.
1. It's a GPL release. 2. None of the rewards are happening in some far-future date. It's all in October (of which there is 15 days left).
Essentially, the proposition is that we the community pay and they will relicense it to GPL. If we pay more then they licence to BSD.
Using Kickstarter to pay for essentially finished goods isn't really the point of the system, and won't really work without a marketing campaign. Now, if grassroots were behind this, then a paid marketing campaign wouldn't be necessary... but the actual customers of ScriterJS, are commercial companies already paying for a licence and won't benefit from a GPL release.
Elsewhere in this thread, people talk about the goodwill the companies will gain if they pay for this project to be open sourced. However open source goodwill is only generated by popular projects, who market their sponsors. The lack of marketing around the kickstarter, would make companies think that their sponsorship won't receive much PR as well.
Lastly, one must ask why the company behind ScriterJS doesn't simply open source it themselves for goodwill and let a community grow organically to support it (via donations or code)? While no one can guarantee on-going support indefinitely, the way this projects release is being positioned makes me think its going to be an abandoned code-dump.
All said, it looks like a commercial company wants to dump their product. If they can get enough money, they'll open source it. If not, they'll just let long-tail revenue trickle in for the next few years to get the same sum of money.
checkout how conformant QuickJS is with the modern ES standards https://test262.report/ (especially compared with other engines developed by big teams and companies behind them) Fabrice Bellard is a genius, and I really don't like using this word.
Prodigies like him kind of scare me. I studied at the same place as where Adam Dunkels (behind e.g. uIP and Contiki, a networked OS requiring 30 KB RAM and 30 KB ROM despite a GUI) did and he was almost a mythological figure with stories of taking multiple classes at once with ease.
Anything else u remember about him?
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This is the kind of project that I'd hope the Linux Foundation or similar could take an interest in financing too. Until, at least, all major modern OSes come with a built in scriptable headless browser engine, which would be a game-changer. Something-like-electron-or-sciter where you don't have to download the runtime for each individual application. Also, of course, not a walled garden: the windows "modern apps" st…
"Until...all major modern OSes come with a built in scriptable headless browser engine, which would be a game-changer." Ah, yes. Internet Explorer, they called it. Built right into the OS. A game changer. Funny how the meaning of something (goodness/badness/motives/...) can change as circumstances change.
Edit: This comment is wrong - looks like IE did fit this description before my time. :-)
Couple of other alternatives https://github.com/patr0nus/DeskGap https://github.com/neutralinojs/neutralinojs Like many pointed out electron may be a beast but few important things like system tray, start on boot come inbuilt with electron.
These package the operating system's native web view, which has its own set of issues like inconsistency. Sciter on the other hand is its own HTML rendering engine.