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Animation of how bridges were built in Central Europe in the Middle Ages [video]

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Seriously, why is the submission to a lower-quality, sped-up Twitter gif?

As _Microft says, the gif is making rounds on the Internet (I've seen it last night on Mastodon).

And to be honest, I'm not surprised that it beats the video - it communicates the exact same information, and the same sense of awe as the original video, but in a much more time-efficient manner. Watching the original now, I can't shake the feeling of how boringly slow it is.

Re: Animation of how bridges were built in Central Europe in the Middle Ages [video]

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Note that the construction took 45 years.

Those little intermediate piers were probably the slowest part of the on site work. And the most vulnerable part of the bridge, because that's what gets eroded. It's still the biggest cause of bridge failure.

Makes me wonder if they've been done in parallel or serially.

Also, I'd love to know how the bridge was designed. How did they figure out the shapes of the supporting structure, or location of the piers? Etc. We have this knowledge systematized today, but we use mathematics in a form that was developed much later than those bridges.

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#43

I used to be tempted to think that our modern generations are extra smart because of the cool gadgets we have. Seeing stuff like this, and reading ancient political / philosophical writings, gives me a much-needed reality check.

There is absolutely no difference between a human from 6000 years ago and one today. You could be an Einstein level genius back then, and likely unable to use any of those skills other than for the optimization of your environment. Also, you likely would not be able to use the bulk of it because your education would be non-existent, so your IQ compared to someone today would be much lower even though your raw intelli…

> you likely would not be able to use the bulk of it

Evolution rarely produces something useless, especially something that consumes a lot of precious energy like the brain.

More likely these people were exquisitely knowledgeable about their environment.

Either that, or their brains were the same size as ours, but far less efficient.

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It's a pretty typical mistake. We are just as smart as our predecessors. We just have a much higher population, a higher % of them are well educated, and we have an enormous body of historical knowledge (as well as easy ways for anyone to access it). "On the shoulder of giants" etc.

We work harder than our predecessors (8+ hours workday, 5 days a week, both men and women), so I'd say we aren't really as smart as them.

That statement feels wrong but I have no data to back up my gut feeling. Only a handful of generations ago even something as menial as doing your own laundry was hard work. Maybe we spend more time in offices, but if anything, I suspect we work a lot less hard in general.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a pretty typical mistake. We are just as smart as our predecessors. We just have a much higher population, a higher % of them are well educated, and we have an enormous body of historical knowledge (as well as easy ways for anyone to access it). "On the shoulder of giants" etc.

We work harder than our predecessors (8+ hours workday, 5 days a week, both men and women), so I'd say we aren't really as smart as them.

As opposed to 12 hours a day (depending on daylight), 6 days a week, both men (in the fields) and women (at home, without the luxury of washing machines and vacuum cleaners). Yeah, we certainly work harder...

Re: Animation of how bridges were built in Central Europe in the Middle Ages [video]

#46

This really blew my mind when I saw it for the first time. It still blows my mind. Amazing.

Yeah me too. Also how Julius Caesar crossed the Rhine river is amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNPnBVHSeZc https://the-augustus.com/2018/11/29/how-did-caesar-cross-the...

"The bridge would need to be four football fields long"

Playing right into the stereotype; they didn't even start with a standard unit.

Re: Animation of how bridges were built in Central Europe in the Middle Ages [video]

#47

I used to be tempted to think that our modern generations are extra smart because of the cool gadgets we have. Seeing stuff like this, and reading ancient political / philosophical writings, gives me a much-needed reality check.

There is absolutely no difference between a human from 6000 years ago and one today. You could be an Einstein level genius back then, and likely unable to use any of those skills other than for the optimization of your environment. Also, you likely would not be able to use the bulk of it because your education would be non-existent, so your IQ compared to someone today would be much lower even though your raw intelli…

Thats just... dude, 6000 years ago the knifes where sharper than what you find in your kitchen. What blunt knife?

Similary, high IQ people today are given "blunt knifes" considering they are surrounded by 8 billion retards, see handling of covid, climate change, flat earthers etc. If anything, back then a high iq person would have motivation and belief in bringing discoveries to the table. Today, why would anyone invent say fusion power or usable super conductors when you know it will just be use for more poverty and destruction?

The average size of brains has been lowered by 15% from then to now.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a pretty typical mistake. We are just as smart as our predecessors. We just have a much higher population, a higher % of them are well educated, and we have an enormous body of historical knowledge (as well as easy ways for anyone to access it). "On the shoulder of giants" etc.

> It's a pretty typical mistake. It's an even more typical mistake to believe that our time is the pinnacle in all respects (because of all the cool gadgets that we have). But we are not the pinnacle in all respects; perhaps the largest danger is that we are delegating all multifaceted work (which ultimately is what produces skill) to automation and/or extreme specialists, so that we can push the enjoyment button (or…

Less work is a good thing.

Re: Animation of how bridges were built in Central Europe in the Middle Ages [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those little intermediate piers were probably the slowest part of the on site work. And the most vulnerable part of the bridge, because that's what gets eroded. It's still the biggest cause of bridge failure.

Makes me wonder if they've been done in parallel or serially. Also, I'd love to know how the bridge was designed. How did they figure out the shapes of the supporting structure, or location of the piers? Etc. We have this knowledge systematized today, but we use mathematics in a form that was developed much later than those bridges.

They had it systematized as well; the mason guilds were very thorough in protecting and maintaining knowledge throughout centuries.

Re: Animation of how bridges were built in Central Europe in the Middle Ages [video]

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Note that the construction took 45 years.

Isn't this longer than the average life expectancy of that time? I wonder what kind of incentives they had for such long-term projects.

As others said, it isn't. Child mortality was particularly high, which reduces the average age, making it not very suitable for understanding the reality at the time. Barring violent death, people who survived past the age of 15 normally lived to 60+.
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