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FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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post #24

Hmm. Dont see any white paper or design docs on their website. Did i miss it. At a glance sounds like a reinvention of Tor, but less secure.

There are a lot more technical details on the project README page here!: https://github.com/freepn/fpnd/blob/master/README.rst

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

#63
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are the exit node for other people's browsing, which can be rather scary

So, wait... Let me get this straight-- This is a p2p VPN, so, it basically routes other people's potentially illegal activities through your own IP address, so you can do the same over other people's IP addresses? And they don't even mention that fact on the front page? Talk about disingenuous... Like, goddamn, VPNs aren't THAT expensive. Not compared to, IDK, a lawyer, or missing a day of work because you're in a ja…

Exactly. There is no "hiding in the masses", there is no "plausible deniability" going on here. If someone downloads CP or terrorist manuals using your connection, try explaining that to the dumb cops that you were using a p2p distributed VPN and that it "honestly wasn't me officer".

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

#64
post #43

This is all very unexpected actually! (No one from FreeVPN made the post here!) We've been doing some early market testing in a few Linux communities on Reddit, but full disclosure, the product is currently in an early-alpha stage (it’s only available on Ubuntu and Gentoo Linux currently, and very much under construction). We have big ambitions for the project, but it is still very early days. Love hearing the feedba…

- How are you planning on monetising this? - What happens if someone downloads CP through my home connection? - How do you plan to block ads with both Chrome and Firefox moving to DNS over HTTPS?

Hi coddle-hark -

- Right now we're still undecided / exploring different ways of monetizing the product! (something similar to Adblock-Plus though is our leading idea). - We're working on a way to disallow users from acting as exits for certain kinds of traffic - so you'll be able to categorically block certain kinds of sites through the UI in the near future. - Even with DoH on by default in the browser, we can still override / specify a DNS server.

Let me know if you still have questions / any of the above is unclear!

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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I think this is early, but great idea. The founders definitely have a big vision to bring to reality.

Funny how this praise is made from an account created mere minutes before..

Could be covert self-advertising of course - but it made me think it could also be from an adverse party :

You see a competitor being talked about in a thread, you create novelty accounts grossly marvelling at their product.

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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post #56
post #43

This is all very unexpected actually! (No one from FreeVPN made the post here!) We've been doing some early market testing in a few Linux communities on Reddit, but full disclosure, the product is currently in an early-alpha stage (it’s only available on Ubuntu and Gentoo Linux currently, and very much under construction). We have big ambitions for the project, but it is still very early days. Love hearing the feedba…

Hi Ian, What’s the long term business model then?

Hi edf13 -

We're still exploring different methods of monetization, but leaning towards an Adblock-Plus style model at the moment (but would want to keep any ads we served entirely local / we'd never send any data off device & would want to be as transparent about everything as possible). Personally, I think it keeps our interests best aligned with those of our users & helps keep the focus on preserving user privacy!

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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I have a project I want to do that would involve a lot of YouTube scraping. But they'll throttle you if they detect it. This led me down the rabbit hole into the world of residential proxy services. Some of them[0] advertise up to 40 million IPs. I can't imagine many of the owners of those IPs know what they're being used for. It would be cool if there was a reputable open source project that would let people share/b…

SEO companies are big customers of products like this. Scraping Google at scale requires a huge budget for proxies and IP blocks, and I believe they apply ML to detect people abusing their service.

I can confirm that, scraping Google instantly needs huge effort and money. In our best we can scrape 2500 SERP per IP.

But i must say using proxy services and other things did not helped us much. Because most of them were banned before we use.

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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post #65

I think this is early, but great idea. The founders definitely have a big vision to bring to reality.

Funny how this praise is made from an account created mere minutes before.. Could be covert self-advertising of course - but it made me think it could also be from an adverse party : You see a competitor being talked about in a thread, you create novelty accounts grossly marvelling at their product.

They posted twice, with a minute in-between, both with glowing reviews.

https://i.imgur.com/fTfgcyN.png

My reply was instantly flagged of course.

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

#69
post #16

I have a project I want to do that would involve a lot of YouTube scraping. But they'll throttle you if they detect it. This led me down the rabbit hole into the world of residential proxy services. Some of them[0] advertise up to 40 million IPs. I can't imagine many of the owners of those IPs know what they're being used for. It would be cool if there was a reputable open source project that would let people share/b…

> I can't imagine many of the owners of those IPs know what they're being used for. They don’t. For instance, Luminati, possibly the best known player in this market, uses HolaVPN users as exit nodes.[1] [1] https://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/hk-en/security/news/cybercr...

I've never heard such service exists and uses browser extension user's network. It looks horrible. Possibly random browser extension user may arrested by unknown reason.

Re: FreePN: Open-source peer-to-peer VPN service

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This appears to be the main repository for their "VPN" daemon: https://github.com/freepn/fpnd Some observations: * It's not actually a virtual private network , at least by the traditional definition. They route HTTP(S) and DNS traffic only; other protocols (presumably) get routed in the clear. * IPv6 isn't supported at all. * I might be missing it, but I can't find any cryptographic design documents or a threat mode…

Some other sketchy bits, from a very quick perusal: * Shelling out[1] to some tool that may be responsible for all of the heavy networking bits[2] * Falling back on a non-monotonic clock but calling it monotonic[3] * Another sketchy shellout[4] that calls a bunch of scripts with trivial interpolation/injection bugs[5]. It's not clear if the arguments passed to those scripts are remotely controllable, but it's sketchy…

Hi! Link [4] is missing.
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