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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by christefano »

Nextgrid wrote: post #760
whatever1 wrote: post #624

Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

Face ID is a major downgrade from Touch ID regardless of the pandemic. Touch ID (combined with a home button) is a lot faster. You can reach into your pocket or handbag, put the finger on the button and press it while you're taking it out . By the time your phone is out it's unlocked and on the home screen. I don't recall seeing people failing to unlock their phones while paying with Apple Pay before but now it's a r…

> Touch ID (combined with a home button) is a lot faster. You can reach into your pocket or handbag, put the finger on the button and press it while you're taking it out. By the time your phone is out it's unlocked and on the home screen. I don't recall seeing people failing to unlock their phones while paying with Apple Pay before but now it's a reasonably common occurrence if they didn't "prime" it ahead of time.

I was excited when I discovered this, but I now consider this “feature” to be a security issue. I used to “prime” my Touch ID-equipped iPhones until I accidental authorized an in-app purchase because my thumb was pre-placed on the sensor.

Never again.

I had modified the Accessibility settings so that resting a finger on the sensor would unlock the device, and when reverting that setting I still ran into the same issue.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by christefano »

sedatk wrote: post #741
whatever1 wrote: post #624

Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

FWIW, Face ID started to work for me with a mask on after iOS 14 update. Apparently, it requires a lot of training by failed attempts with a mask before it starts working. It doesn't work if you have your mask all the way up to cover your nose completely, but a little space is enough.

Interesting idea, though I’m not sure this is a good idea. Exposing one’s nose defeats the purpose of wearing the mask.

As an aside, I’m super curious to see whether Face ID works with the transparent PurME masks.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/purme-a-gas-mask-you-can-...

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by christefano »

ciarannolan wrote: post #62

Do people still watch these live? I find them really hard to watch. It's about 95% fluff and bullshit and 5% about the technology. I usually just read the bullet summary afterwards.

I try to, if only so that I can get ahead of the headlines and opinion pieces. I like to form my own opinions first.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by christefano »

madeofpalk wrote: post #667
spoopyskelly wrote: post #541

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are only two genders, how wide of a variety can you have?

Well, considering the keynote cast used to be exclusively old white men...

Gender is a spectrum and not a binary. Here’s a playlist of TED talks that you might be interested in:

https://www.ted.com/playlists/459/the_gender_spectrum

“These talks break down what it means to live outside society’s traditional (and outdated) understanding of gender.”

Note: Replying to the parent whose post has been flagged.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by christefano »

torgian wrote: post #748

Honestly I’m a little torn between the Mini and the Pro models, simply because of LiDAR. I kind of want to experiment with that and potentially make an app utilizing that. But I honesty can’t think of something that Apple hasn’t already includeD.

Samesies. Having even close to the purported 6x speed improvement when taking low light photos would be amazing.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by sedatk »

netheril96 wrote: post #771
sedatk wrote: post #741

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, Face ID started to work for me with a mask on after iOS 14 update. Apparently, it requires a lot of training by failed attempts with a mask before it starts working. It doesn't work if you have your mask all the way up to cover your nose completely, but a little space is enough.

A face mask that does not cover the nose is equivalent to no mask.

Your mask still covers your nose, just not the whole nose. I'd say covering your nose up to 80% works fine.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by Nextgrid »

leokennis wrote: post #938
Nextgrid wrote: post #760

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Face ID is a major downgrade from Touch ID regardless of the pandemic. Touch ID (combined with a home button) is a lot faster. You can reach into your pocket or handbag, put the finger on the button and press it while you're taking it out . By the time your phone is out it's unlocked and on the home screen. I don't recall seeing people failing to unlock their phones while paying with Apple Pay before but now it's a r…

I have to disagree. Both systems have advantages over the other, and of course with a mask on TouchID has a pretty big advantage right now. But: - FaceID is way better when your fingers are not perfect: after washing hands, in the kitchen, when wearing gloves etc. - FaceID is more secure (lower chance of a false positive) - FaceID already starts working when you pick up the phone (you do not need to trigger it), so b…

> by the time I swipe up to unlock, it has already long since identified my face

With Touch ID and a home button I do not have to swipe up to unlock - in the accessibility settings there is a "rest finger to open" option which brings back the pre-iOS10 (or around that time) behavior where the lockscreen is dismissed as soon as your finger is recognized.

This means that before I even take out the phone out of my pocket it is already unlocked and is on the home screen ready to be used. You can even start opening apps purely through muscle memory while you're taking the phone out.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by Nextgrid »

wrboyce wrote: post #952
Nextgrid wrote: post #760

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Face ID is a major downgrade from Touch ID regardless of the pandemic. Touch ID (combined with a home button) is a lot faster. You can reach into your pocket or handbag, put the finger on the button and press it while you're taking it out . By the time your phone is out it's unlocked and on the home screen. I don't recall seeing people failing to unlock their phones while paying with Apple Pay before but now it's a r…

Have you ever used FaceID? There are a lot of false claims in your rant. My favourite was the room being illuminated (by IR light?) when using FaceID in bed.

Yes I have used Face ID. I actually tried to force myself to like the new phone by "dual-wielding" both my iPhone 8 and a new iPhone XS for a couple weeks. I ended up sticking to my iPhone 8 and keeping the other one as a test device for iOS development.

By illuminating the room I meant illuminating from the light of the screen, not IR. When using it in bed I can keep a Touch ID device under a blanket as to not illuminate the rest of the room, but Face ID performs poorly in that case and I have to take the phone out completely so the light does leak.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by armandhammer »

whatever1 wrote: post #624

Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

Weird, fully masked Face ID has worked fine for me since the iOS 13.5 update (more than 95% of the time). Before that it never worked with a mask on. And I wear the L size huge standard disposable white mask which covers nearly my entire face from the bottom of my eyelids, fully side to side, all the way over my chin.
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