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Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Post by cloudwalking »

notherthrowaway wrote: post #726
DeonPenny wrote: post #399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeh but what about wikileaks, trumps taxes, and so many other story. But even if it was policy the fact they banned the press secretary of the united states should give everyone pause.

Should the press secretary’s Twitter account get special treatment?

No. The White House Press Office does not need a twitter account. They can issue press releases and hold press conferences, and both will be widely covered by the national media or view on the internet. There is no reason they need to use twitter.

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Post by geitir »

prudhvis wrote: post #223

I have no idea what happened during the early 2010s. I grew up during the late 90s (born in late 80s) learning about the internet and its philosophies. Allowing Free speech still is the hill I'd like to die on. But the new generation of people, even here on HN and the internet hacker personalities I used to align with have turned so pro-censorship that I don't believe I'm in a proper reality/timeline anymore.

putting on my asshole hat maybe it's because the internet in the 90s was mostly above average intelligence techies who statistically had a better chance of doing thorough research. But now everyone's on the internet and those same techies are trying to come up with ways to prevent false information disseminating among the uneducated or at minimum unwilling-to-do-research masses

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Post by zalkota »

Fishysoup wrote: post #756
bananabreakfast wrote: post #752

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Ha, against "them". All republicans. As a monolith. As if they are a sports team. This sums up the central problem in modern politics as a whole right here.

It does tend to be the case in the last years. Being affiliated with the party of Trump and McConnell is a choice, and means condoning their behavior to a certain extent. You can be a conservative and not a Republican, but if you call yourself a Republican you're effectively endorsing corruption and hatred.

Supporting democrats is supporting the looting and burning of buildings. Pick your poisons champ!

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Post by meowface »

slg wrote: post #712
mhh__ wrote: post #560

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Why? Watergate was largely built off journalistic work not hacked materials, obviously deep throat was inside the FBI but he was never quoted

>obviously deep throat was inside the FBI Which is still a huge moral difference. I would have hoped that HN would be one community that would understand the difference between a whistleblower leaking data to journalists to expose a crime versus an outsider committing a crime in order to acquire data to leak for their own political gain. But I guess I shouldn't expect that considering many people here think Snowden,…

Once the information is out there, it's in the public interest for it to be openly available and not censored.

No one condoned Russia's intelligence hacking and leaking the DNC/Podesta/Clinton emails, of course, but once they became public knowledge, it'd be ridiculous for a social media company to censor all links to the emails.

Similarly, no one condones repair shop owners snooping on customers' laptops for political dirt, but once it's public, the information itself stands alone.

Twitter would be right to ban the repair shop owner's account, if he had one, but I don't think they're right to censor any references to the leaked information. It's law enforcement's job to determine if a crime was committed and to prosecute the individual if so.

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Post by whatusername »

Karunamon wrote: post #772
sangnoir wrote: post #198

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I'd say the article is self-consistent, but not necessarily credible. I don't think "hack" means literal network intrusion. If the article's own description of the provenance of the information is taken at face value, cloning a hard drive at a repair shop without authorization still qualifies as "hacked", and in violation of Twitter terms.

The "authorization" is provided by the owner of the laptop, which is legally the owner of the shop, since whoever dropped the machine off signed a contract indicating as much.

Surely you provide authorization to perform a data recovery but not to share the data with the media?

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Post by rayiner »

Fishysoup wrote: post #756
bananabreakfast wrote: post #752

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha, against "them". All republicans. As a monolith. As if they are a sports team. This sums up the central problem in modern politics as a whole right here.

It does tend to be the case in the last years. Being affiliated with the party of Trump and McConnell is a choice, and means condoning their behavior to a certain extent. You can be a conservative and not a Republican, but if you call yourself a Republican you're effectively endorsing corruption and hatred.

That’s not really a realistic position in our two-party system. You either call yourself a Republican, or you align with the party that had to be brow-beaten into condemning riots.

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Post by Larrikin »

fareesh wrote: post #740
shostack wrote: post #737

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That's news to me. Can you cite a credible source for the debunking? I'd love to read more.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-10-01/steele...

The URL has opinion right there in the middle of it

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Post by croes »

crazygringo wrote: post #379

> However, it is highly unusual for an article published by one of the mainstream popular newspapers to be treated in this way. That's a bit of a stretch. The NY Post is a tabloid [1]. Tabloids are technically newspapers, but they aim primarily to sensationalize [2]. Tabloids are nothing like the NY Times or Washington Post, which attempt to present objective, unbiased news. (Now you may argue that they fail at that…

Who decides if a newspaper is a newspaper or just a tabloid?

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Post by avs733 »

sangnoir wrote: post #185

Why is everyone ignoring @jack's official explanation for why Twitter blocked the specific link from being shared? This is the one falsifiable action Twitter clearly took. Twitters official policy is to not allow publication of hacked material or information with Personally Identifying Information - and this material was hacked and had unredacted personal email addresses. I haven't seen any reasonable arguments again…

Because the us media and public are disarmed by bad faith arguments.

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Post by kyle_martin1 »

Karunamon wrote: post #775
whatever1 wrote: post #743

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Having my data in your hard drive does not mean that it allows you to view my my data, unless I specifically I allowed you to do so.

It does, however, mean exactly that if you sign a contract saying "all this stuff belongs to me if you don't pay me and leave it here for 90 days". Most places, from computer shops to car shops, have similar rules regarding abandonment and/or nonpayment.

That’s right.
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