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Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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It's incredibly Kafka-eqsue that you get banned for a supposed violation that you're supposed to appeal, but you don't know what you're being accused of doing. This is exacerbated by the fact that 9 out of 10 times a story like this appears it's an algorithm gone rogue which its billion-dollar shepherd assumes is infallible. The remaining 1 time it's because someone knows how to abuse reporting systems to get someone…

> The remaining 1 time it's because someone knows how to abuse reporting systems to get someone locked out on purpose. My Twitter account got disabled many months ago due to "suspicious activity". I did not do anything. At the time I talked to someone with whom I disagreed respectfully on a CS-related subject and was not political. Next thing that happens is that it asks me to verify via phone and only then I am able…

I once got locked out of my Veeva Vault account because I couldn't remember who I put as "who was your best friend in kindergarten?" (I had like 8 best friends then!). After putting in a ticket and hearing nothing back I finally braved the phone system and called support line. The rep who unlocked my account and reset my password assigned me 4 different modules of 60-question EACH mandatory training in order to get back into my "dashboard."

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We, the users of Google's services, are not Google's customers, even though we think we are. The advertisers are google's customers. So when you reassess the 'relationship' this way, Google abusing users is totally fine- Google has billions of users they can treat poorly. They can't treat advertisers poorly.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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IIRC, attorney fees are not typically allowable in small claims in California - wouldn't be surprised if there are exceptions.

In California, you're not allowed to bring an attorney to a SCC -- only to Superior Court -- so, obviously, there's no attorney fees when attorneys are not allowed. Some other states do allow attorneys in SCC, however.

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IIRC, attorney fees are not typically allowable in small claims in California - wouldn't be surprised if there are exceptions.

In California, you're not allowed to bring an attorney to a SCC -- only to Superior Court -- so, obviously, there's no attorney fees when attorneys are not allowed. Some other states do allow attorneys in SCC, however.

Stupid question: how does that work for the company?

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I run my own mail servers on my own domains. I use my own private "cloud" server for storing photos, documents, file sync, contacts, emails, events and everything else. I have minimized my contact with anything Google as much as I can. I have a couple of different Google accounts because I _need_ to have those accounts for work, or a developer account, but I have reduced any connection with Google to just background…

Owning and running an email server is a great undertaking. However a lot of email providers will give you the option to use your own domain with their service. Gmail (Workspace) and Fastmail have it and it's pretty straightforward to setup. Even setting up DKIM and SPF is pretty easy. Also having a backup of the email messages is very handy.

Agreed, it isn't for most people. I have a mail server running on my main hosting server that I have complete control over, with certificates and so forth to make it trustworthy. Then I have an in-home mail server that acts as a proxy, which pulls in all the email from the main server, so that when I type in mail.justinlloyd.domain I end up on a page that looks very much like Google's gmail. And of course, multiple backups of the servers in multiple locations. But this isn't for everyone.

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Every time a "Google banned my account" thread comes up, I like to point out that my Google Adwords account was banned once. I filed an appeal. It's been 20 years this month, I'm still waiting for a response.

Same here, and they owe me quite some money. They absolutely know it because they then had the audacity to send to my physical address a voucher for adsense after banning me for allegedly clicking on ads, which I never did. Now every time I have the opportunity to make a case against using any Google service in a business I'm working in... and I worked in a few big Telecom and IT businesses for the past 15 years, lik…

That's what they denied me for too. Claimed I was clicking on my own ads.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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> Did you decide to go for Round 2 in small claims court and get the account un-disabled? Sadly, you cannot do it in Small Claims Court. SCC cannot provide injunctive relief -- you can only sue for monetary relief. To get an injunction to have the account unblocked, you'd have to sue Google in the big-boys Superior Court, and/or federal court, which may cost more and require having a proper lawyer.

Or go through arbitration.

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Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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This is a good reminder to always backup your photos/docs elsewhere - if you have one Synology has a good Google integration that will do this automatically (I then send it up to Glacier for off-site). And also - eschew the convenience of OAUTH - just create an account at every site - it's annoying but at least you avoid you're entire life being locked out.

I'm still pissed that Google disabled the Photo sync with GDrive. It makes backing up my photos 100x harder than it should be.

A red flag to get out.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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Every time a "Google banned my account" thread comes up, I like to point out that my Google Adwords account was banned once. I filed an appeal. It's been 20 years this month, I'm still waiting for a response.

I've read so many AdSense horror stories that, whenever I thought to use AdSense, I just gave up out of fear of "tainting" my account. Between the fraud false-positives and accounts getting locked (or even lost), it never looked like it was worth the trouble.
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