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Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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This should be illegal if there is no way to contest/appeal.

It's the reverse. It's often illegal to divulge the content of a violation.

Do you have a source for that? How could that possibly be illegal?

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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Correct. In order to get injunctive relief of having account access restored, you'd have to sue Google in a Superior Court. The difference between Small Claims and Superior is that in the former you're generally not allowed to bring an attorney, whereas in the latter you may actually be required to bring one. Does anyone know whether account suspension without a reason is actually something that a pro-se litigant has…

> in the former you're generally not allowed to bring an attorney That only applies to individuals. Corporations are not only allowed, but in fact required to be represented by an attorney in court. Even small claims. Corporations do not have pro se representation rights, and only an attorney can represent another person.

It is not true in all states that corporations must be represented by an attorney in small claims court. In California, corporations must be represented by a non-attorney employee for small claims actions.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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I understand this is frustrating, but reading through this person's thread, it reads as an absolute temper tantrum. A few choice quotes: > Our lives are in a bind because of this BULLSHIT > I am out of office reconsidering whether I should work at a company that continuously escalates its attacks towards my family. > [looking for]... A company that provides a steady salary and respects me, my nationality, culture, et…

He never said that Google attacks his life or sexuality, only his family.

No.

https://twitter.com/miguelytob/status/1316569887175778304?s=...

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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This is why having email service using your own domain is important. Should Gmail decide to suddenly terminate your account you can point the MX records to a new provider and be up and running in an hour or two. I would argue that any free email service is a liability. It's one of the things that's very important & worth paying for.

I run my own mail servers on my own domains. I use my own private "cloud" server for storing photos, documents, file sync, contacts, emails, events and everything else. I have minimized my contact with anything Google as much as I can. I have a couple of different Google accounts because I _need_ to have those accounts for work, or a developer account, but I have reduced any connection with Google to just background…

Owning and running an email server is a great undertaking. However a lot of email providers will give you the option to use your own domain with their service. Gmail (Workspace) and Fastmail have it and it's pretty straightforward to setup. Even setting up DKIM and SPF is pretty easy.

Also having a backup of the email messages is very handy.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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I worked at a startup where we used Google Cloud. Even as a paying customer, when I'd try to talk to their "support" all they would do is try to upsell their consulting partners to answer a question about their own services.

That's wild, we're a fairly small Azure customer (compared to others) and I get calls and emails every month from a rep asking us what they can do, if anything. I think Microsoft is maybe a bit smarter at this by connecting sales to CSMs, because they can up sell and get you to support if you need it. While with Google it's a big shell game.

Yeah, I was probably a bit spoiled at the time. I was at startups that leveraged AWS in the early days and their reps and support people were at least somewhat accessible but at the very least knowledgeable. That flew in complete contrast to my experience with GCP.

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I looked into this a bit a year or two ago, and wasn't happy with the alternatives. The main issue for me is that I never delete anything , and so I have nearly 500GB of email, dating back over 20 years (sadly I've lost earlier email due to the cost of even local storage back in those days). I don't want to deal with the data in any way, sorting through it, splitting it up, etc. I just want to dump it all into an ema…

I recently culled a few of my larger gmail accounts. This is what it took: * Connect to Outlook and sync locally * Sort All Mail by sender * Delete All Mail per senders that aren't important It took me a day, and I'm glad I did it. Not that painful. Outlook was a champ through the whole process. Now I can move somewhere else, which I will.

I'm surprised Outlook held up. In my experience the program starts crapping itself after the first 3-4GiB of emails, and it only gets worse after that. I wouldn't rely on the file remaining intact for long with such a setup...

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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Honestly Google can't entertain the requests of every single U.S. Senator. They'd spend literally hours on unpaid support every year.

Wait, what? There are only 100 US senators and Google already spends tens of millions of dollars per year lobbying them. I'm not saying I agree with the GP point, but if Google wanted to give those senators free personal tech support it would not be prohibitively expensive.

Sorry, should have included /s

I thought it would be implied since GP was not serious either.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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I definitely think that what you're saying is true, and is part of the explanation. But another part is that the Wild West internet also had its own major issues -- roving bandits, to carry the analogy -- and these big companies did solve real problems that were only growing with time. Gmail's spam filtering. Recaptcha's bot rejection. Facebook's identity verification. Paypal's secure credit card processing. Google d…

I believe this is an overly rosy-glasses view of the current heavily centralized internet. Gmail spam filtering? Isn't particularly good. I run my own email infrastructure and I get way less spam through it than on my gmail address. And I don't do anything particularly special other than configure postfix correctly. Recaptcha? Was there ever a more hated piece of user abusive technology? Plenty of rage against it her…

It's more of an attempt at a steelman. Just for the record, I don't like the current centralized internet; I've all but deactivated my facebook account; when a site requires a Google or Facebook verified login ID without their own "create account" option I avoid them at all costs; I avoid Paypal now because there are better alternatives (but in the early '00s, I would not have trusted most sites enough to pay with a card). And so on. I'm not trying to advocate for their position, but just understand the problems that they solve and why we got here.

And while I hate using recaptcha, I also had the even more unpleasant experience of watching a forum that I moderated die under a crushing assault of spam bots that were smart enough to make it past the built-in CAPTCHA. Recaptcha isn't there to solve problems for the people who interact with it, it's solving problems for the people who chose to put it on their site.

I wrote in a sibling comment what value Facebook's login brings to the sites that opt into it. (Offload all the work of password handling, claims about stolen accounts, preventing sockpuppetry and catfishing, etc).

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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Every time a "Google banned my account" thread comes up, I like to point out that my Google Adwords account was banned once. I filed an appeal. It's been 20 years this month, I'm still waiting for a response.

Same here, and they owe me quite some money. They absolutely know it because they then had the audacity to send to my physical address a voucher for adsense after banning me for allegedly clicking on ads, which I never did.

Now every time I have the opportunity to make a case against using any Google service in a business I'm working in... and I worked in a few big Telecom and IT businesses for the past 15 years, like the first internet provider in my country.

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