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Re: A warning about Glassdoor

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This sounds like a market opportunity. If Glassdoor has pivoted to shilling for other corporations, someone should turn around and make a site that allows honest negative reviews of companies. Anyone interested?

I'm game, if I get to start the stack :)

Just bought brassgates.com -- who's in?

Re: A warning about Glassdoor

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Its ok for companies to ask their employees to leave reviews at glassdoor right?

No, it isn't. That's really scummy.

Well... Asking employees to leave reviews isn't scummy. On the oter hand, asking them to leave _only 5* reviews_ is scummy.

Re: A warning about Glassdoor

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The real shame of a lot of these problems with reputation in the digital age is that there really are people making sacrifices to live up to their ethics and yet it's hard to make that known. Since our perspectives have become so broad, it's hard to pay careful attention to acts of virtue, which is often practiced by many small acts over the course of years.

And also, the structure of our "democracy" is such that there is nothing that citizens can do about this, or most any other obvious major problem at this point. The aligned interests of corporations, the government, and the media seem to have put the citizens of the country into a kind of inescapable checkmate position.

What we're seeing is the inevitable consequence of the granting and concentration of power. An idea I've seen proved true more times than I'd like to count is that "if you don't want power abused, don't create it in the first place." Any power granted WILL be misused and usually almost immediately and because the incentive is always to make it not LOOK like it's being abused, people get hilariously creative in how they do it, just making it look even more comic book evil.

I've been around long enough to have a fairly strong sense now that the only way to win is to deny it battle - never concentrate power in the first place. But I think that genie has already escaped and isn't going back in the bottle without a huge amount of suffering and death.

Re: A warning about Glassdoor

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We've come full circle. Word of mouth is all you can trust. The Internet as a great "disintermediation" medium is over.

From this I get you mean "word of mouth" in a very physical way? As in "my cousin Jane says..."? Because "Word of mouth" over the internet would imply that The Internet still has a big role to play in disintermediation. Would "reviews" from your network, any network, physical, or digital, of people you know, be valuable? I believe that a "review" is only useful if you know the reviewer well enough. Regardless of the…

> If you know who the "review" comes from, you can trust it. Otherwise you cannot. I assume this comes down to "word of mouth", though.

Yes, in the context of a relationship. A "review" from someone one has some kind of relationship is more meaningful. Possibly a weak one, like a fellow HackerNews poster. Which brings back the Internet--helps one form new kinds of relationship.

Re: A warning about Glassdoor

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If the fundamental problem is trust, are you really suggesting that "it can't be hard to create" that trust?

Blockchain! Proving that reviews haven't been removed might actually make this a real application for a blockchain.

Problem is, you will be forced by courts to remove some reviews for the usual reasons, making you instantly untrustworthy

Re: A warning about Glassdoor

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Every organization that accepts reviews from "users" about goods/services/employment provided by organizations eventually seems to run into a conflict of interest between their stated purpose and their finances. This is true of Yelp, BBB, and now, I guess, Glassdoor. This is why organizations like this are not a replacement for government enforced labor and consumer rights. Once an organization establishes a strong b…

Do you think Quora also does it or might do in future? I would trust Quora more looking at the founding team.

I would guess that Quora's algorithm could be gamed pretty easily by having an employee leave a positively-biased answer to a question and then having a bunch of other employees upvote the answer.

The company could even have an employee seed the question, then have other employees answer and upvote in order to bury other questions that have negative responses.

Basically, Quora appears to tolerate quite a bit of spam, which would make it hard for them to be an authoritative source on anything other than "how do I game Quora's algorithm?" (since obviously whoever's answer is highest-rated has won ipso facto).

Re: A warning about Glassdoor

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I never look at comments for Glassdoor. I do check Salary info and leave my Salary info.

Is that aspect being gamed as well and in what direction? advertising higher salary then what they would actually offer?

Re: A warning about Glassdoor

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Every organization that accepts reviews from "users" about goods/services/employment provided by organizations eventually seems to run into a conflict of interest between their stated purpose and their finances. This is true of Yelp, BBB, and now, I guess, Glassdoor. This is why organizations like this are not a replacement for government enforced labor and consumer rights. Once an organization establishes a strong b…

Except that if you accept money for better ratings the quality of your suggestions goes down and people stop using your service. This is why many such review sites explicitly do not allow you to pay to alter reviews. Their entire revenue engine would crumble. Some will allow you to solicit reviews (Glassdoor), while others even prohibit that (Yelp, Apple App Store) due to it generally being some way of influencing sc…

Except that the part where your company makes extra money and you get a fat bonus happens now, while the part where consumers eventually lose faith in your ratings takes years. And you can spend 10% of the extra revenue on a bunch of ads talking about how honest and trustworthy your company is, making it take even longer.

Re: A warning about Glassdoor

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FWICT, all the job-finding and -reviewing sites are pure and utter scams (w/the exception of LinkedIn) -- they post false, misleading, repeated and outdated jobs intentionally as a bait-and-switch tactic, they mine and share all your info (so you can expect more spam and more crappy job-site offers) and many are un-unsubscibeable, so you will have to spam filter them out of your inbox for eternity.
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