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Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Ahhh: 1. We must censor terror propaganda and child abuse to avoid harm & because it's the law 2. We must censor stormfront and the far right because it's the right thing to do 3. We must censor covid misinformation because it could kill people 4. We must selectively censor news reporting for political candidates we are aligned with because it's probably false. ---- we are here now 5. We must remove all news critical…

Twitter is not the government. Support decentralized messaging and publication platforms if you don’t like big winners having too much power.

Is “big winners” synonymous with monopoly in need of antitrust enforcement to make room for decentralization?

Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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I have no idea what happened during the early 2010s. I grew up during the late 90s (born in late 80s) learning about the internet and its philosophies. Allowing Free speech still is the hill I'd like to die on. But the new generation of people, even here on HN and the internet hacker personalities I used to align with have turned so pro-censorship that I don't believe I'm in a proper reality/timeline anymore.

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Why is everyone ignoring @jack's official explanation for why Twitter blocked the specific link from being shared? This is the one falsifiable action Twitter clearly took. Twitters official policy is to not allow publication of hacked material or information with Personally Identifying Information - and this material was hacked and had unredacted personal email addresses. I haven't seen any reasonable arguments again…

I dont know, I think this is some sort of thing to protect twitter honestly, in case someone hacks and posts something from Twitter. How is hacking any different from stealing? Surely news stories with stolen and even classified content are allowed, I don't understand why hacking is so different.

Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Why is everyone ignoring @jack's official explanation for why Twitter blocked the specific link from being shared? This is the one falsifiable action Twitter clearly took. Twitters official policy is to not allow publication of hacked material or information with Personally Identifying Information - and this material was hacked and had unredacted personal email addresses. I haven't seen any reasonable arguments again…

I don't think we should ever take the CEO's official explanation of the reason something happened unless its under oath with clear evidence, otherwise its just PR.

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Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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The story reeks from top to bottom. The owner of the repair shop that allegedly received the laptop from Biden is a super far right conspiracy theorist. To the point where he literally believes that the Clintons are out to kill him for the information he has [1]. The whole story is that this is Hunter Biden's laptop, but in reality some random dude dropped it off and the owner said that "he had a medical condition th…

Literally the same thing that happened with the FBI announcing that they were "reopening" the Clinton investigation right before the election and then promptly deciding that they found nothing afterwards.

History might not repeat, but it does rhyme.

Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Why is everyone ignoring @jack's official explanation for why Twitter blocked the specific link from being shared? This is the one falsifiable action Twitter clearly took. Twitters official policy is to not allow publication of hacked material or information with Personally Identifying Information - and this material was hacked and had unredacted personal email addresses. I haven't seen any reasonable arguments again…

Twitter adopted this policy because they know that progressives are more likely to be compromised by leaked information

...are you suggesting that progressives have more "dirty laundry" than conservatives in general?

Or that conservatives are more likely to dox people?

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Ahhh: 1. We must censor terror propaganda and child abuse to avoid harm & because it's the law 2. We must censor stormfront and the far right because it's the right thing to do 3. We must censor covid misinformation because it could kill people 4. We must selectively censor news reporting for political candidates we are aligned with because it's probably false. ---- we are here now 5. We must remove all news critical…

Out of curiosity, where do you think the line SHOULD be?

No, seriously. You have to draw the line somewhere, right? If your answer is "no, these platforms should be perfectly neutral", then are you okay with child pornography and terrorist beheadings in your feed?

If you say no to this, and the answer is based on the law, what happens if the law is unethical and for example the Trump/Republican administration passes a law saying "Acknowledgement of the gay lifestyle is illegal" (a la Russia).

Regardless of any political division there is a general humanistic "ethical line". It varies from person to person, but if you discount outright nazis and child pornographers generally we can find where that is.

Why should a private corporation not choose where that ethical line is for it?

Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Ahhh: 1. We must censor terror propaganda and child abuse to avoid harm & because it's the law 2. We must censor stormfront and the far right because it's the right thing to do 3. We must censor covid misinformation because it could kill people 4. We must selectively censor news reporting for political candidates we are aligned with because it's probably false. ---- we are here now 5. We must remove all news critical…

1. We can't censor because of slippery slope

2. Idiots elect clown because of propaganda

3. Hundreds of thousands of people die from preventable catastrophe.

I don't disagree with you but this is not an acceptable answer.

Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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The road to hell is paved with good intentions. We've been watching this happen for a few years now, and some of us are actively paving the road.

Recently I've seen people invoking the term "slippery slope fallacy" to describe this phenomenon.

It's really frustrating to see this. I think there was some stupid "list of fallacies" infographic popular on Reddit a few months back that spawned this notion that there's no such thing as a "slippery slope" and calling anything a "slippery slope" means you're wrong and your argument can be tossed out.

But... that's exactly how rights are eroded. It is, in the purest sense, a slippery slope of gradual change.

I'm not sure how I feel about this specific instance (the Twitter/Biden thing) but I think the "slippery slope fallacy" fallacy is relevant here.

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