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Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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I've been wanting to migrate off Gmail since Snowden, but never looked closer. I need to get on that.

I looked into this a bit a year or two ago, and wasn't happy with the alternatives. The main issue for me is that I never delete anything , and so I have nearly 500GB of email, dating back over 20 years (sadly I've lost earlier email due to the cost of even local storage back in those days). I don't want to deal with the data in any way, sorting through it, splitting it up, etc. I just want to dump it all into an ema…

OneDrive is pretty damn cheap _and_ comes with access to Office on the web. 1tb per family member, with Office? Goodly.

There's no official Linux client, but there are open source ones that perform well.

You could drop your mbox onto a OneDrive sync and then use fetchmail or similar to rip it out of your provider. Each email could be individually encrypted, so you won't have to deal with a 500gb blob to sync.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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I'll play the devils advocate: moderating any platform is a challenging endeavor, mostly because of malicious users. Having all the rules broken down in detail allows bad actors to either get close to the line but not cross it, or abuse the system while technically not breaking any rules. As such, having very broad rules (read TOS) helps. Additionally, not having to explain exactly what was violated means that people…

I'll play the devils advocate Why?

Because considering and understanding other perspectives is important for actually getting things done?

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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Have they completed the official escalation procedure for resolving issues with Google products? It sounds like they're at the point where they are supposed to contact a friend who writes for the New York Times, or similarly prominent outlet, to have a story written about their predicament. This usually resolves the issue, but if it does not, they should run for and win a U. S. Senate seat, then forward the details o…

Honestly Google can't entertain the requests of every single U.S. Senator. They'd spend literally hours on unpaid support every year.

Wait, what? There are only 100 US senators and Google already spends tens of millions of dollars per year lobbying them. I'm not saying I agree with the GP point, but if Google wanted to give those senators free personal tech support it would not be prohibitively expensive.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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If someone wants to move away from a Google free account, is there a way to see of list of all sites/apps that they have previously granted OAuth access to?

I found a way to view this if you have a paid admin account for your organization, but I don't see a way to view a list of previous OAuth granted requests for a free Google account.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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I'll play the devils advocate: moderating any platform is a challenging endeavor, mostly because of malicious users. Having all the rules broken down in detail allows bad actors to either get close to the line but not cross it, or abuse the system while technically not breaking any rules. As such, having very broad rules (read TOS) helps. Additionally, not having to explain exactly what was violated means that people…

I'll play the devils advocate Why?

Because it is necessary to develop a "theory of mind" to figure out why some entities behave the way they do. You'll encounter fewer surprises that way :)

edit: also, I have the battle scars from moderated a few niche online forums/properties that were mildly popular. People who abuse services are surprisingly tenacious and creative. If there is the potential to make money - even a little - you get abusers who are tenacious, creative and sophisticated

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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I'll play the devils advocate: moderating any platform is a challenging endeavor, mostly because of malicious users. Having all the rules broken down in detail allows bad actors to either get close to the line but not cross it, or abuse the system while technically not breaking any rules. As such, having very broad rules (read TOS) helps. Additionally, not having to explain exactly what was violated means that people…

I'll play the devils advocate Why?

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Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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I would love to see a step-by-step guide on how to move away from centralized services entirely. Maybe in favor of the various federated services that are popping up.

People post guides to HN periodically about how to do exactly this. But it will require a lot of effort and a carefully designed backup/failover plan for when your self-hosted things tank (or get hacked).

> But it will require a lot of effort and a carefully designed backup/failover plan for when your self-hosted things tank (or get hacked).

One assumes that it will require no more effort than when your Google account tanks or gets hacked?

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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This story is just absolutely ridiculous: The poster _works at Google_ and even tried to escalate internally for days, to no avail.

I would lose my mind if this happened to me. Can't imagine how frustrating this would end up being.

Me too. This anecdote is the latest grim reminder to me that I really should be keeping my offline backups up to date, just in case.
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