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Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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This is one of the reasons why I've finally began migrating to a custom domain + proton mail. Can't imagine the time it would take me to get back all the accounts registered to my email, not to mention those to which access would be lost forever.

Unfortunately Protonmail is not good for long term mail storage. Their web mail app has hardly improved in years, and it is abysmal in terms of search and handling thousands of emails. If you depend on PM, you may find some years later that your emails are trapped and incredibly difficult to access except painfully individually, with much manual effort.

I’ve been using Protonmail for years, with many tens of thousands of emails, and this does not match my experience at all. It is far, far easier for me to find old emails sent to my Protonmail account than to my old Gmail account, which seems to randomly decide that some emails shouldn’t be searchable.

With a paid account it is trivial to export your emails as well: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/export-import-...

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

7 billion people use Google. If you look at the likeliness of it happening to one guy out of 7 billion, it would be very, very small. But the problem is, once it is banned, you will probably lose a lot of important stuff permanently.

lol , 7 billion is way too high of an estimate of people actually using their free services to store valuable information. I would say closer to 70 million

It’s probably closer to 70M but that’s probably absurdly off too. I bet there’s 70M people in the US alone who use Google services for valuable information. GMail alone is massive.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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post #72

This is one of the reasons why I've finally began migrating to a custom domain + proton mail. Can't imagine the time it would take me to get back all the accounts registered to my email, not to mention those to which access would be lost forever.

Unfortunately Protonmail is not good for long term mail storage. Their web mail app has hardly improved in years, and it is abysmal in terms of search and handling thousands of emails. If you depend on PM, you may find some years later that your emails are trapped and incredibly difficult to access except painfully individually, with much manual effort.

I use my own domain and gmail for phone access, but I download all my emails to Outlook via imap. I have about 20GB of emails in outlook (my entire life's emails basically) which are instantly searchable.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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It's incredibly Kafka-eqsue that you get banned for a supposed violation that you're supposed to appeal, but you don't know what you're being accused of doing. This is exacerbated by the fact that 9 out of 10 times a story like this appears it's an algorithm gone rogue which its billion-dollar shepherd assumes is infallible. The remaining 1 time it's because someone knows how to abuse reporting systems to get someone…

> which its billion-dollar shepherd assumes is infallible.

I think the "cattle, not pets" implications haven't quite sunken in yet. Stragglers get turned into mutton.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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Right now I have everything tied up to my Google account (primary email, drive, photos). Has anyone moved away and if so, to what?

Currently I am trying to figure out how to move e-mail away from google, not my personal one, but my company e-mail. Couldn't figure out yet... The reason is that despite being a corporate costuemer we don't pay enough to have access to support, and some issues we had, the only thing the FAQ and documentation did was redirect us to a page behind payment.

User https://www.thunderbird.net/ to make a local backup copy, then you can sync it with other accounts.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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post #72

This is one of the reasons why I've finally began migrating to a custom domain + proton mail. Can't imagine the time it would take me to get back all the accounts registered to my email, not to mention those to which access would be lost forever.

Unfortunately Protonmail is not good for long term mail storage. Their web mail app has hardly improved in years, and it is abysmal in terms of search and handling thousands of emails. If you depend on PM, you may find some years later that your emails are trapped and incredibly difficult to access except painfully individually, with much manual effort.

I agree 100%. Used ProtonMail for a while and this is an issue that's made me think about looking to migrate elsewhere. Tutanota had similar problems when I messed around with it last year. It is hard to find one with good UI, my needed functions, while still having a solid security reputation.

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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It's incredibly Kafka-eqsue that you get banned for a supposed violation that you're supposed to appeal, but you don't know what you're being accused of doing. This is exacerbated by the fact that 9 out of 10 times a story like this appears it's an algorithm gone rogue which its billion-dollar shepherd assumes is infallible. The remaining 1 time it's because someone knows how to abuse reporting systems to get someone…

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Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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Right now I have everything tied up to my Google account (primary email, drive, photos). Has anyone moved away and if so, to what?

Fastmail. But the key thing is using my own domain name . You can actually use Gmail safely... as long as you are using your own domain name. If Google (or Fastmail) terminated my account, I could point my domain name to another mail service, and not lose access to any of my other services. But as long as you're using an @gmail.com address as your digital identity, your access to all of your online accounts is tied u…

Is there any US-based company, which offers a paid email service, and great customer support?

Re: Google disabled my husband's account

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This is why I pay for Amazon Photos as well and use double the data/time to upload to both. I don't want google's AI or employees nerfing my entire family photos archive.

if you pay does it mean they will not kidnap your account like this? I think not. amazon does tend to have functional customer support though
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