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Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Post by quantummkv »

Keep aside the accuracy of the NYPost story for a moment. With this move, Facebook and Twitter have effectively backed one political side over the other. Even if in the nitty-gritty they might not have, this is the perception that is sent out and is the perception that will be played to the hilt by the Trump camp. And timing of this is damning as well, with distrust of big tech and social media rising even before this on all ends of the political spectrum.

If by any chance Trump wins next month, this will be the end not only for Facebook and Twitter, but for the wider Internet in general and Social Media in particular. Because if Trump wins, he is not going to let it slide. The destruction of Facebook and Twitter will most certainly done by removing the safe harbors by citing this incident in particular. That will be a bloodbath with a lot casualties of innocent bystanders in Silicon Valley.

And the knock-off effects of this will be even more damning. Even if Trump loses, many other countries will take a big, hard look at the possibility of regime change and political interference being done by a bunch of Western Activists. Especially in Asia and Africa, where the memories of Western Imperialism have not yet faded and the wounds are still raw.

I am really surprised by the fact that the shareholders, investors and the board of Facebook and Twitter haven't stepped in to stop this or at-least deescalate this, considering they will be loosing a whole lot in this scenario. Or is everyone in Silicon Valley just too drugged out with activism to care about even themselves?

Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Post by 12xo »

commandlinefan wrote: post #16
12xo wrote: post #6

Censorship is when the government, not private enterprises, stifle speech. When it a private entity, it’s called free market. This is a difficult concept for whiners to accept.

Actually, the title refers to it as "bias" rather than "censorship". "free market" is a larger concept than "bias", although you can be biased while still operating within the context of a free market. Still, censorship doesn't have anything to do with the government, although the U.S. explicitly forbids government censorship.

You mean bias like Rush Limbaugh or FoxNews bias? Where other ideas are not only never presented, they are openly mocked?

And that happens mind you, on the PUBLICLY OWNED airwaves and spectrum....

Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Post by 12xo »

12xo wrote: post #6

Censorship is when the government, not private enterprises, stifle speech. When it a private entity, it’s called free market. This is a difficult concept for whiners to accept.

I see there is a lot of work to do in educating people... No wonder the whiners are always crying, they are ignorant and willfully so... How sad. Downvote all you want

Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Post by sleepysysadmin »

jchw wrote: post #25
sleepysysadmin wrote: post #24

Ignore the NYPost for the moment. A US government website put the details on their website. Twitter is now blocking the US government webpage hosting the details. They are blocking actual politicians linking these details. https://twitter.com/CongressmanHice/status/13167418079595724... Worse yet, they have highlighted the exact opposite story. They are featuring washington post who are calling it false. https://twitt…

Well, if it is false, then they are performing the stated goal of stopping the spread of “fake news”, which need not discriminate on whether the entity pushing it is associated with a government or not. Whether or not I want Twitter to be an arbiter of truth, some very basic research does seem to make it seem this story is a bit on the order of a conspiracy theory.

Just out of curiosity, what is your political persuasion? Do you tend to lean more democrat or republican?

>which need not discriminate on whether the entity pushing it is associated with a government or not.

I was ignoring the NYPost, to judge action taken by Twitter. Twitter should never ever censor a government website regardless for what it says.

>Whether or not I want Twitter to be an arbiter of truth, some very basic research does seem to make it seem this story is a bit on the order of a conspiracy theory.

Do you want Twitter to be the arbiter of truth?

My usual source of Democrat/Left news is Msnbc. For whatever reason they are not covering the story at all.

Can enlighten me on why it seems to be a conspiracy theory?

Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Post by Simulacra »

jchw wrote: post #25
sleepysysadmin wrote: post #24

Ignore the NYPost for the moment. A US government website put the details on their website. Twitter is now blocking the US government webpage hosting the details. They are blocking actual politicians linking these details. https://twitter.com/CongressmanHice/status/13167418079595724... Worse yet, they have highlighted the exact opposite story. They are featuring washington post who are calling it false. https://twitt…

Well, if it is false, then they are performing the stated goal of stopping the spread of “fake news”, which need not discriminate on whether the entity pushing it is associated with a government or not. Whether or not I want Twitter to be an arbiter of truth, some very basic research does seem to make it seem this story is a bit on the order of a conspiracy theory.

There’s a photo of Hunter Biden with a crack pipe in his mouth, and emails discussing his father while he was vice president and the exchange of money. That’s not a conspiracy theory.

Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Post by sleepysysadmin »

tt433 wrote: post #28
sleepysysadmin wrote: post #24

Ignore the NYPost for the moment. A US government website put the details on their website. Twitter is now blocking the US government webpage hosting the details. They are blocking actual politicians linking these details. https://twitter.com/CongressmanHice/status/13167418079595724... Worse yet, they have highlighted the exact opposite story. They are featuring washington post who are calling it false. https://twitt…

Would not be the first time the US government has transparently tried to lie about and smear families of government critics.

>Would not be the first time the US government has transparently tried to lie about and smear families of government critics.

While the leak is obviously timed to directly impact the election. They no doubt have been sitting on the information for months or longer.

What do you think about Twitter outright censoring the entire subject? It only makes me want to know more.

Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Post by rhino369 »

tzs wrote: post #26
rhino369 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of Guilianni, they could have just said "persons familiar with the contents of the emails."

That or "anonymous sources" wouldn't have helped. That works with papers that have a long earned reputation of mostly reporting facts. They may have biases in their selection of which stories to run, or what angles to approach those stores from, but what they report as a fact is in fact a fact far far far far more often than not. (Pause for people to jump in to cite examples of such papers getting it wrong. This will…

Let's see Twitter's list of trusted newspapers. No way such a thing exists.

Re: Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Post by sleepysysadmin »

jchw wrote: post #25
sleepysysadmin wrote: post #24

Ignore the NYPost for the moment. A US government website put the details on their website. Twitter is now blocking the US government webpage hosting the details. They are blocking actual politicians linking these details. https://twitter.com/CongressmanHice/status/13167418079595724... Worse yet, they have highlighted the exact opposite story. They are featuring washington post who are calling it false. https://twitt…

Well, if it is false, then they are performing the stated goal of stopping the spread of “fake news”, which need not discriminate on whether the entity pushing it is associated with a government or not. Whether or not I want Twitter to be an arbiter of truth, some very basic research does seem to make it seem this story is a bit on the order of a conspiracy theory.

Follow up. Twitter has come out saying they blocked this because of personal identifying information.

Not because it's false, fake, or a conspiracy.

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