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Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by antifasux »

DSingularity wrote: post #885
Karunamon wrote: post #291

This was a shockingly dumb move. Whether or not you think these actions were politically motivated or made in good faith, it just poured liquid oxygen on the "reform section 230" fire you're seeing from both sides of the aisle - one using the censorship reason, the other using the disinformation reason. There's no way you don't block a newspaper, and the press secretary, and prevent anyone from even private messaging…

Companies which spend millions on counsel every year are not going to blunder. They either have anterior motives (boost the story through censorship) or they had no choice. I don’t know what to think anymore because I don’t understand how this censorship will have any effect other than causing the story to spread like fire.

It's a big story, Biden was caught in a quid pro quo almost exactly like the one Trump was impeached over -- but the one Trump was impeached for was for investigating Biden's corruption.

The projection from the Democrats is unbelievable! To think they impeached a sitting President who was lawfully investigating the crime his predecessor committed and accused him of the very crime he was investigating. The only indictment that even stuck was obstruction... Of an investigation that did in fact turn out to have no merit. It was, in the end, a witch hunt like Trump said.

And all anyone can think about is the election. Maybe this is proof to those of you who still only trust the legacy media that many of the things Trump has been accused of are in fact projection.

The fact that BIDEN COLLUDED and Trump was impeached because of it is just the tip of the iceberg. Then there's Crossfire Hurricane and the interference with Trump's campaign by the Obama administration during the last election.

Election interference and collision? Whoops that was the Democrats, not Trump.

Quid pro quo with the Ukraine? Turns out that was Vice President Biden. Oops again! Impeached the wrong guy!

Vote Trump; he's not the corrupt one. Can you believe it?

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by freebasenic »

Wolfenstein98k wrote: post #793
frob wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The New York Post is not a serious newspaper; it is a sensationalist tabloid. Sometimes the NYPost will report on real news, but I believe absolutely nothing they report until it is verified by the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, or other major broadcast outlet with actual journalistic standards.

The three outlets you cited lean left and regularly avoid articles inconvenient to the left (and paint much of the remainder as "Republicans pounce on reports that..."). Consider balancing with centre-right outlets like National Review.

Centre-right, National Review.... You made me spit out my tea when I read that. I'd ask you to go to the op-ed section, and tell me it's even close to "centre-right" and not fully right.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by [deleted] »

antifasux wrote: post #891
DSingularity wrote: post #885

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Companies which spend millions on counsel every year are not going to blunder. They either have anterior motives (boost the story through censorship) or they had no choice. I don’t know what to think anymore because I don’t understand how this censorship will have any effect other than causing the story to spread like fire.

It's a big story, Biden was caught in a quid pro quo almost exactly like the one Trump was impeached over -- but the one Trump was impeached for was for investigating Biden's corruption. The projection from the Democrats is unbelievable! To think they impeached a sitting President who was lawfully investigating the crime his predecessor committed and accused him of the very crime he was investigating. The only indict…

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Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by [deleted] »

CaoCao wrote: post #881
bipson wrote: post #849

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not GP, but most immigration systems violate human rights all the time by treating people as if they were people without these rights - or not people at all. Most of the time the legal leeway is based upon them not being citizens (yet). What is the path to immigration in your country? It begins with a legal dilemma: E.g. asylum is a human right, but how to determine who is eligible? In a timely manner that is. Especi…

"asylum is a human right" "determine who is eligible" Well, if it's a human right, then everyone. But it's not, which is why you have this twisted logic. There is no right to freely cross borders.

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Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by jlokier »

robertlagrant wrote: post #822
runarberg wrote: post #689

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the grand scheme of things, the Pandora's box Twitter and Facebook might have opened today seems minute next to the Pandora’s box the Bush administration opened after the 9-11 attacks, the homeland security and all. I think after the election we will have completely forgotten about this conduct while we still have to live with the spying on innocent people, non-sense travel restriction, and human-rights violating…

How does the immigration system violate human rights?

We can't discuss human rights in absolute worldwide terms while looking at immigration systems, because there's no universally agreed set of human rights to discuss, as far as I know.

But we can discuss violations of what it is widely regarded should be universal human rights.

Here's a list of some that I consider should be universal human rights, which are often violated by immigration systems:

- The right of young children to be with their parents

- The right of spouses to be together and start a family

- The right to get married

- The right to legal due process, including appeals and representation

- The right to work for essentials for survival such as food, shelter and medicine

- The right to enter private transactions for things like shelter

- The right to access the prevailing currency system (basic banking in the modern world)

- The right to leave an abusive job, without enduring serious harm caused by the state if you do

- The right to leave an abusive relationship, without enduring serious harm caused by the state if you do

- The right to stay in the country where you were born, raised and have never known anywhere else

- The right to vote in the country where you were born and raised

- The right to protection and safety when talking to the police about a crime where you are a victim or witness

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Post by jcadam »

hef19898 wrote: post #858
whoevercares wrote: post #841

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Civil war possible at all in US’s military system today?

From an external position, I'd say theoretically yes. It is enough when a political rift goes through society and also the military. This rift could lead to failure of command coehesion, split of the military and ultimately infighting. Which could, if you ask me, be a risk in case trump wins but it is rather clear that the election was fradulent (not saying it will be, but let's assume for the arguments sake it was).…

As a former Army officer, I completely agree with the CJCS recent statement that the military will play no role in the election process.

Anything short of a clear landslide for one of the two candidates is going to result in a seriously tense/chaotic situation. Best to hunker down and hope the civilians sort their shit out before giving an order you know is going to result in a lot of resentment and formerly good, dependable people being locked up for insubordination (best case), or entire organizations dissolving in an orgy of mutiny, violence, and/or desertion (worst case).

As far as a split goes, it wouldn't be "clean." Unlike in the 19th century, individual units aren't constituted from people drawn from the same geographic area. There's a centralized bureaucracy managing personnel, so most units really are a cultural melting pot made up of people from all over the country. So I don't see the military splitting, I see it falling apart.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by carierx1 »

jlokier wrote: post #895
robertlagrant wrote: post #822

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does the immigration system violate human rights?

We can't discuss human rights in absolute worldwide terms while looking at immigration systems, because there's no universally agreed set of human rights to discuss, as far as I know. But we can discuss violations of what it is widely regarded should be universal human rights. Here's a list of some that I consider should be universal human rights, which are often violated by immigration systems: - The right of young…

Universally recognized human right? You must be 12 years old.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by CivBase »

> Twitter said Thursday that it censored a New York Post article based on emails between Hunter Biden and a Burisma executive in accordance with its “hacked materials policy.”

This is a joke. Nothing was hacked. The laptop was left at a repair shop and not reclaimed. The repair shop almost certainly retains ownership of unclaimed machines after some period of time. The shop owns the laptop.

Maybe the emails were forged. Idk. But nothing was hacked.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by enragedcacti »

dahfizz wrote: post #888
UncleMeat wrote: post #845

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not true. The 538 model was very close to the actual outcome in 2018.

By 'expected' I don't mean the models where wrong, I mean the country is on fire and the Democratic party could/should have run away with the election. Instead they lost seats in the senate and did not gain back all the ground they lost in the state governments. For comparison, the Republicans did very well in the 2014 mid term, convincingly taking over both houses of congress. The democratic party had every advantag…

"Democrats won the House with the largest midterms margin of all time" [1]

Dems did well in 2018, the issue was that the 1/3 of senators that happened to be up that year were in very bad states for dems geographically.

[1] https://www.axios.com/2018-midterm-elections-democrats-won-h...

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by iovrthoughtthis »

Karunamon wrote: post #291

This was a shockingly dumb move. Whether or not you think these actions were politically motivated or made in good faith, it just poured liquid oxygen on the "reform section 230" fire you're seeing from both sides of the aisle - one using the censorship reason, the other using the disinformation reason. There's no way you don't block a newspaper, and the press secretary, and prevent anyone from even private messaging…

Is there any potential benefit for fb in having Section 230 reformed?
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