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The persecution of the Uyghurs is a crime against humanity

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Re: The persecution of the Uyghurs is a crime against humanity

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Post by jkhdigital »

sudofail wrote: post #6

If anything can be considered the canary in the coal mine for a threat to world peace, this is it. Most people alive to day have experienced nothing but an unprecedented period of peace and prosperity. It's easy to take it for granted that progress is inevitable, and that wide scale war is a thing of the past. But the CCP's actions against the Uyghurs has shown the world what kind of leader China would be on the worl…

Collectivism can find a justification for almost any atrocity. Collectivist ideologies (which includes Nazism) have a pretty well-worn track record of inciting mass murder and Chinese communism was a clear example long before the oppression of the Uighurs. Hearing about the reality of enforcing the one-child policy was enough for me to make up my mind on the CCP.

Re: The persecution of the Uyghurs is a crime against humanity

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Post by mlang23 »

causality0 wrote: post #3

It stands to reason that had Nazi Germany not attacked its neighbors, the rest of the world would have happily stood by and watched them execute their own Jewish/undesirables population with nothing more than some strongly-worded letters and trade sanctions.

You mean like when tibet was invaded, and the whole world immediately joined forces to stop that. Hmm. I think it is more "what is close to the west is important to the west". People dont count, not even today. Money and economics count. People are born every day. It is a cruel world that claims humanity exists to cloud its own shortcomings. It is sad to watch.

Re: The persecution of the Uyghurs is a crime against humanity

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Post by zdragnar »

goku99 wrote: post #12

I don't understand what's the point of UN when these things are happening in a permanent UNSC member country. This C has been causing nuisance to their neighbors all the time. They Debt-Trap poor nations and exploit them. From Mongols to India, every neighbor has a problem, they are probably most worst neighbor you could get. Recently it was in news with yet another conflict with India[1]. This needs to stop. Entire…

Didn't China just get on to the human rights committee too?

Edit: yes, the human rights council, joined by Russia and Cuba. What a time to be alive.

Re: The persecution of the Uyghurs is a crime against humanity

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Post by tsjq »

EliRivers wrote: post #5
tsjq wrote: post #2

China appears to have done with Uyghurs, and has moved on to next frontier : Mongols.

Oh yes, like that exhibition in France that mentioned Ghengis Khan. Can't have that; it goes against the CCCP narrative of the history of China.

Further, despite the Mongols comprising a good part of the population, China is forcing Chinese language onto them (the Inner Mongolia state) and has begun to gradually phase out their native language.

Re: The persecution of the Uyghurs is a crime against humanity

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Post by LatteLazy »

goku99 wrote: post #12

I don't understand what's the point of UN when these things are happening in a permanent UNSC member country. This C has been causing nuisance to their neighbors all the time. They Debt-Trap poor nations and exploit them. From Mongols to India, every neighbor has a problem, they are probably most worst neighbor you could get. Recently it was in news with yet another conflict with India[1]. This needs to stop. Entire…

The Security Council nations all agreed that rules didn't apply to Security Council nations. The issue here is the UN has zero power to stop this and that's by design.

Re: The persecution of the Uyghurs is a crime against humanity

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Post by pizza234 »

webmobdev wrote: post #10

It's incredibly sad that the world is not doing anything about it. Even if half of the things they say are true - putting anyone in camps for sporting a beard or praying in public, forced prison labour, physical torture, separating new borns and kids from parents in camp, sending kids to brainwashing schools, sexual abuse, organ harvesting etc - it's enough to make anyone feel disgusted at this state of affairs. But…

What can the world realistically do? China right now has enormous power over the rest of the world (by means of economical dependency), and I don't see that decreasing.

To be clear, I certainly support human rights, but I personally see the situation as so bad, that I'm worried about how China's influence will extend to the West.

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Post by mac01021 »

webmobdev wrote: post #10

It's incredibly sad that the world is not doing anything about it. Even if half of the things they say are true - putting anyone in camps for sporting a beard or praying in public, forced prison labour, physical torture, separating new borns and kids from parents in camp, sending kids to brainwashing schools, sexual abuse, organ harvesting etc - it's enough to make anyone feel disgusted at this state of affairs. But…

I'm not outraged by the suggestion, but I'm not sure it's true either.

Maybe race and theology play a role for a few people, but I think the vast majority would be just as apathetic if they were a white, christian group, as long as they were as socially distant from us as the Uyghurs are from us (imagine some kind of Amish-style group that had been living there socially isolated from us for centuries)

Of course this is hard to verify empirically, but I think it's an important distinction.

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Post by [deleted] »

zdragnar wrote: post #24
goku99 wrote: post #12

I don't understand what's the point of UN when these things are happening in a permanent UNSC member country. This C has been causing nuisance to their neighbors all the time. They Debt-Trap poor nations and exploit them. From Mongols to India, every neighbor has a problem, they are probably most worst neighbor you could get. Recently it was in news with yet another conflict with India[1]. This needs to stop. Entire…

Didn't China just get on to the human rights committee too? Edit: yes, the human rights council, joined by Russia and Cuba. What a time to be alive.

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Re: The persecution of the Uyghurs is a crime against humanity

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Post by thrwyoilarticle »

tsjq wrote: post #2

China appears to have done with Uyghurs, and has moved on to next frontier : Mongols.

Or the China-relations zeitgeist only has room for one story at a time and the rest get ignored. It's very hard to know these things deeply when we don't speak the language or understand the history. This story might be the first time readers find out about China caring about Mongols at all
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