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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by sgerenser »

swiley wrote: post #933
whatever1 wrote: post #624

Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

Personally I never used either. Biometric authentication just seems like a terrible idea to me and I really don't want my phone collecting data like that.

iPhones don’t collect biometric data other than locally, and even then only in a form that would never be useful to anyone (hashed and stored on Secure Enclave).

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by notSupplied »

ActorNightly wrote: post #132
mikkelam wrote: post #83

I wish the iphone 12 mini was smaller :/ Seems like the best option for us compact loving people though

If you can live with 30 minutes of battery life. Yes Im being hyperbolic, battery life at full load is going to suffer tremendously, especially when you consider the degradation of battery performance over the years.

As Apple makes their chips faster and more efficient and as phone batteries get bigger and bigger, app developers rise to meet the challenge by producing increasingly sloppy software that can afford to be incredibly wasteful because raw speed of the hardware is masking its cracks.

Try to run Instagram today on an iPhone 6, you won't be able to even scroll a feed of static images smoothly without hitching. Imagine what it is doing to the battery.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by ksec »

kevincox wrote: post #961
dijit wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They seem to be the only company making a small flagship phone. Ever since the Sony mini phones stopped getting updates I lost hope.

It's not a flagship though. It is missing a lot of features compared to the bigger models.

I definitely classify them as Flagship phones. It even has mmWave in the US version.

Apart from some features in Camera there is barely anything missing. And it is faster than anysize of Android Phone with A14.

I dont think it gets any more Flagship than that.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by ksec »

amrrs wrote: post #35

Is this the first iPhone launch without Phil Schiller (in a while)? Looks like individual experts have taken over each segment of iPhone (from Phil Schiller). Still I miss him!

I think he may appear in the Mac event in November.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by ksec »

jack2222 wrote: post #731
tomerico wrote: post #401

What's amazing to me is how little of a difference they have between the regular and pro models: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ It basically boils down to a few relatively minor camera features perhaps except for the addition of a 2x camera (The other differences are Lidar sensor, 60fps HDR recording at vs 30fps, and saving in RAW). It looks like they think that just creating the impression that the pro model…

Given they both have the A14 chip and seemingly no other differences in their innards, the fact the pro can do 60fps Dolby digital vs the regular phones 30fps feels like a lame software lock?

Pro has 50% more RAM ( 6GB )

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by ksec »

abhiminator wrote: post #310

>Across the iPhone family, we’re removing the power adapter and EarPods that often go unused, but including the fast-charging USB‑C to Lightning cable that most people need. That shrinks packaging, and more boxes per shipment means fewer shipments overall. We’re also transitioning our manufacturing partners to renewable energy. Altogether, this eliminates over 2 million metric tons of carbon emissions annually. Looks…

That wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.

Judging from the lack of announcement, it seems Apple has yet crossed the 1 Billion iPhone users threshold. ( May be they did but held back due to pandemic ) i.e The user growth is slowing, or reached ceiling.

4.5B people have a smartphone. Most of them are on at least 3rd or 4th Smartphone with plenty of chargers lying around. So it would only effect a tiny percentage ( I am willing to bet less than 5% ). So it is not a bad move from environment perspective.

Of coz I wish Apple had at least bundled a high power charger for a few generation before they moved on. But I am ok with the new pricing reduction of their charger. ( $19 )

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by ksec »

pi-rat wrote: post #192
chki wrote: post #49

Very impressive technology: With those 4GB per second download speeds I can use up my entire month of data in 250 milliseconds. On a more serious note: what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?

It will become cheap enough (both hardware and subscription wise) that companies can include them in basically everything. That way you can't prevent your TV from uploading data to the mothership by not connecting it to wifi. It's not a consumer technology.

>It will become cheap enough

I hope that would happen but nothing on the technology roadmap suggest that is possible. Even if 5G patents were free, i.e you paid Zero for all Wireless patents cost, Antenna, RF Front End and 5G Modem is expensive.

Even if you somehow Apply Moore's Law, it will take at least 3 Gen reduction in cost. ( That is 6 years ).

That is why everyone continues to improve WiFi.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by insickness »

kevincox wrote: post #962
insickness wrote: post #215

No 4k 240 fps video, as people were saying it would have. That's disappointing. I hate having to decide between the two whenever I shoot action shots.

It would be very cool, but I would settle for 4k 60fps. Shooting 1080 isn't that bad but the higher resolutions definitely capture more detail.

It does 4k 60fps. https://www.apple.com/iphone-12-pro/specs/

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by kevincox »

insickness wrote: post #988
kevincox wrote: post #962

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be very cool, but I would settle for 4k 60fps. Shooting 1080 isn't that bad but the higher resolutions definitely capture more detail.

It does 4k 60fps. https://www.apple.com/iphone-12-pro/specs/

Oh I misread that. That is quite nice.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by christefano »

8ytecoder wrote: post #701
Hamuko wrote: post #161

The most disappointing aspect to me is that the difference between the Pro and the Pro Max is no longer just the size. I'm quite fond of the size of my 11 Pro and I don't really want to be upsold to the Pro Max if I want the best.

The Pro and the Pro Max are exactly the same except for the camera and the battery. https://www.apple.com/iphone-12-pro/specs/

And the screen size, too…

It wasn’t until home widgets became a thing that I actually began entertaining the idea of getting a Pro Max.

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