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Science doesn't work by consensus, anyway.
It doesn't, but practically speaking for the average joe, what better option is there?
Trusting their intuition.
YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation
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Enter this search on Google and see what you get: "Is hydroxychloroquine effective in treating COVID-19?" Why should there be such a controversy about this issue? It only became political when Trump mentioned it.
>Enter this search on Google and see what you get: "Is hydroxychloroquine effective in treating COVID-19?" what am I supposed to be looking at? is there supposed to be an info box that says "yes" or "no"?
Sorry for not being clear. I am not the best communicator. What you should notice upon entering that search term are the wildly conflicting results. Google will present a "No" answer near the top, but if you scroll down through the thousands of results, you will see some saying "Yes", some saying "No", and some saying "We don't know". Google (and all of the other big social media giants) was quick to post a definitive answer, but is it the correct answer? The volume of uncertainty would seem to indicate that it is not.
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#43This is the slippery slope of censorship on display for everyone to see. What panel of certified physicians is YouTube using to identify what information is correct vs. incorrect? I'm pretty sure they don't have any doctors doing this. The ban is a political act and not a scientific one.
Something has to be done. Obvious bullshit is fooling huge chunks of the population and causing huge damage. We have always selected acceptable content and it has usually been a positive. Schools have always picked which info to teach and what to not and that's largely a positive thing.
Obvious bullshit isn't a problem unless you consider all the world's religions a problem. But if you do, then that's by far the biggest and most serious problem and YouTube really must stamp it with priority over the piddly flash-in-the-pan crackpot science and conspiracy theories.
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Speaking personally: I downvoted them because the thing about blocking Trump's medical report is just not true. FYI: "getting downvoted on HN because my comment is spreading false rumors" is not an example of censorship.
Nit: It's a collective act of censorship if downvotes lead the comment to be removed from public view.
That is true, but now his post has been "Flagged" so it is officially censored.
Re: YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation
#45This is the slippery slope of censorship on display for everyone to see. What panel of certified physicians is YouTube using to identify what information is correct vs. incorrect? I'm pretty sure they don't have any doctors doing this. The ban is a political act and not a scientific one.
How many TV stations have allowed themselves to run shows with covid vaccine misinformation? Is it censorship that they mostly don't?
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"COVID-19 recovery definitely does not provide immunity to reinfection." If the above is true, then there is no hope for a vaccine.
Okay, first of all: it is 100% true that getting infected with COVID-19 does not provide immunity. There have been two cases identified of people who got reinfected after a full recovery https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/08/another-covid-19-rei... Second of all, this is not how vaccines work. Recovery from an illness does not mean that your immune system was maximally effective: a weak immune response coupled with…
The reinfections were likely from a genetically different strain. So was Trump more right or more wrong with his simplified message? I would say that if he tested negative, he would be unable to transmit infection so that part would be true. I would say that he could not be infected (with the same strain) so that would be also true. I don't believe any sensible person believes that they become immune to all strains after recovering from one, and I do not believe that Trump was saying this. Do you?
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It doesn't, but practically speaking for the average joe, what better option is there?
For policy makers to earn the respect and attention of the average Joe, to impart important and scientifically sound information. If they're so bad at the job that they can't refute the ideas of Covid flat-earthers, maybe nobody should be listening to what they have to say anyway. The real issue is that the media and many authorities have squandered their trust and political capital. And now instead of building that…
>they can't refute the ideas of Covid flat-earthers
What is a covid flat-earther? If you are trying to lump flat earthers in with a group of people who are lockdown sceptics you're doing yourself a disservice.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Something has to be done. Obvious bullshit is fooling huge chunks of the population and causing huge damage. We have always selected acceptable content and it has usually been a positive. Schools have always picked which info to teach and what to not and that's largely a positive thing.
Obvious bullshit isn't a problem unless you consider all the world's religions a problem. But if you do, then that's by far the biggest and most serious problem and YouTube really must stamp it with priority over the piddly flash-in-the-pan crackpot science and conspiracy theories.
If the stupid public can't educate themselves then let Survival of the Fittest take over.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
"COVID-19 recovery definitely does not provide immunity to reinfection." If the above is true, then there is no hope for a vaccine.
Okay, first of all: it is 100% true that getting infected with COVID-19 does not provide immunity. There have been two cases identified of people who got reinfected after a full recovery https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/08/another-covid-19-rei... Second of all, this is not how vaccines work. Recovery from an illness does not mean that your immune system was maximally effective: a weak immune response coupled with…
This isn't a particularly great argument (and is scientifically dubious).
There are different strains of flus, colds, and recently, a few different strains of coronavirus.
You can't generally be reinfected by the same strain. What can happen is that new strains can infect you. There are tons of cold strains around, and the flu mutates quickly enough that each year we get a new one, so vaccines have to be redeveloped for each new round of mutations.
Coronavirus is the same way, except that as far as I know, it mutates much more slowly than cold and flu viruses, meaning that vaccines (and having gotten it once) will be equally and more effective than flu or cold vaccines.
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Science doesn't work by consensus, anyway.
It doesn't, but practically speaking for the average joe, what better option is there?
I think the best option is to go to the same doctor for many years, and build a relationship of trust, and then ask them for their opinion.