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Post by youthbrigade »

dx87 wrote: post #220
colinmhayes wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well yea, the left wants misinformation to be labeled/censored because they're no willing to lie like the right does. Once the left catches on to the need o create their own fake news you'll see this from both sides.

At the VP debate Kamala Harris repeated the lie that Trump called covid a hoax. Niether party has a monopoly on lying to their base.

He said it at a rally on February 28th.

Source: Video on c-span https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4865556/user-clip-trump-this-...

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by googthrowaway42 »

mullingitover wrote: post #229
michannne wrote: post #186

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We live in a country where we have elected officials and laws to deal with individuals and organizations that undermine our democracy. I don't need some random collective of people headquarted in a random state to decide those things for me.

Conservatives: we don't need the government censoring things! Trust the free market Free market: censors things Conservatives: no, not like that

You're thinking of libertarians, not conservatives.

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Post by jtbayly »

Hamuko wrote: post #23
throwawa3495 wrote: post #20

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it's honestly irrelevant about the credibility of the emails and other data at this point, its the blanket censorship of this article that's now the real story.

Is it? Because the factuality of the story seems like a pretty big deal here. If it's completely bogus, how is it different from any of those Russian trollfarm posts that the US government was worried about?

Of course the factuality is a big deal. But Twitter didn’t discover the story was false and then remove it. Rather they decided that because the information came from a hack that it couldn’t be posted on their site. If anything they confirmed it was true by doing this.

Magine if they had applied this to WikiLeaks.

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Post by Covzire »

p1necone wrote: post #214
Covzire wrote: post #100

Let's be honest, the only people screaming for censorship are firmly on the left. Controlling "disinformation" is a dog whistle for censorship, hoping that average citizens don't realize what they're really after. We all know who is going to be the moderators in flagging "disinformation" and we all know which ideology they overwhelmingly favor. I'd sooner trust a pyromaniac as fire chief of my local county than I wou…

Assuming you're from America - your right is absolutely bugfuck insane and blatantly corrupt and the fact that you're talking about them as if they're not seriously affects my ability to take you seriously. What is with all these people talking as if the American right and left are just two regular sides of the same political coin without addressing the massive elephant (pun not intended) in the room.

Thanks for the reply I guess, and the clear reminder why so many had to die both in NA and Europe for the first amendment to become a reality.

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Post by Solvitieg »

riffic wrote: post #112
_qulr wrote: post #104

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It's not just Twitter, it's also Facebook. (I believe Facebook was actually the first to take action.) What if Google does it too? In the past few years, we've seen these big tech companies operate in a manner that seems collusive. They follow each other's cues. One company is the first to censor, and then the other companies follow very quickly with the exact same censorship. (The quick collective action tends to di…

I don't really care about Twitter or Facebook to be honest. It's not the only game in town. I'd be more concerned if I bought server hosting from AWS, stood up a WordPress blog about my thoughts on capitalism, socialism, sports, and dogs, and Amazon decides to suspend my account due to my writings.

Even if you opt-out from Twitter, etc.

Your political leaders and journalists are tuned in.

Thus your life is still affected.

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Post by fernandotakai »

dilap wrote: post #15
jimbob45 wrote: post #5

Can anyone with a Twitter confirm this is happening? I assume Twitter will stop censoring it once this goes viral. Edit: Politics entirely aside. We need the truth on Twitter’s actions before we lose the chance.

Yeah, I just tried it, I got: > We can't complete this request because this link has been identified by Twitter or our partners as being potentially harmful. Visit our Help Center to learn more. NPR reporter: > From Twitter spox: "In line with our Hacked Materials Policy, as well as our approach to blocking URLs, we are taking action to block any links to or images of the material in question on Twitter." https://twi…

>> From Twitter spox: "In line with our Hacked Materials Policy, as well as our approach to blocking URLs, we are taking action to block any links to or images of the material in question on Twitter."

that's a huge lie. the brazilian version of the intercept got actual hacked info from federal judges/prosecutor's cellphones and twitter did absolutely nothing -- hell, it was on our trending topics for weeks (search for "vaza jato").

we know it was hacked because brazil's federal police got the hackers.

seems like twitter really loves to pick-and-choose when to apply their hacked material policy.

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Post by reaperducer »

I've known the New York Post as a rag for as long as I've been alive, but I still occasionally buy a copy.

But I when I see Twitter and Facebook deciding they have better journalistic judgement than a major newspaper, it seems that the world is upside down.

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Post by dodobirdlord »

cft wrote: post #177
mcintyre1994 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t the entire point of 230 to allow platforms to be moderated without being treated as publishers?

No, the original point of 230 was to allow platforms to republish user content without bearing civil liability for such content.

No, the point was to allow platforms to republish user content and moderate it without bearing civil liability for the content. Case law prior to section 230 had established that platforms only had liability if they engaged in moderation, but had no liability if they did not moderate in any way. Section 230 was created to address that absurd result of existing law. Protecting platforms that engage in moderation is the whole point, platforms that don’t moderate are already protected. This is why nobody has suggested that AT&T would have civil liability for posts on Facebook even though their wires carry the post to you. Dumb pipes don’t accrue liability.
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