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FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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So if people are hating on Spotify now... ...what's the alternative? People hate Google, they hate Amazon... I remember people used to hate Apple Music years ago because it was missing tons of basic functionality. Is it better? Is Apple Music the "accepted" streaming platform now? Do they all suck in their own way? Or is there another platform that's the good one now?

I gave Deezer a try and I've been quite pleased. The main problem I had with Spotify was missing music from specific genres/countries. Deezer let's me upload my own mp3 files, which means it has the most complete catalogue for me that any service could have.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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But if there was a profitable model where they offer great customer service wouldn't they? Or at least a competitor would come in who did. I don't believe spotify is making millions or billions in pure profit. Their competitors are able to position their products as loss leaders. I agree some companies could do much better, Google is a massive example, but you still have to remember the scale. Read somewhere, If 0.1%…

> you'd need ~21k people working 8/hours to handle it each day. That's Google's problem with their business model, not the customers'. The customer, who has by definition purchased rights to the service in question (whether with the currency of their attention, their information, or their money), deserves the attention of a human - with the ability to fix problems that arise - when they have a problem with that servi…

A customer doesn't have a right to the attention of a human, at least in the US. It's your choice as a consumer to use googles services or not. Well almost, some you can't get away from which kinda makes more sense towards legislation.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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I've been wanting to write about my experiences with the streaming services that I've tried (Spotify, Deezer, AM, YTM, Tidal...) so I guess this seems like a good opportunity. This was a bit long for just a comment so I'm sharing a pastebin. https://pastebin.com/KG5huAnn

Woah, I’ve been looking for a comparison like this for quite some time. Thank you

You're welcome. I might write it as an article so it could be shared easily.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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So if people are hating on Spotify now... ...what's the alternative? People hate Google, they hate Amazon... I remember people used to hate Apple Music years ago because it was missing tons of basic functionality. Is it better? Is Apple Music the "accepted" streaming platform now? Do they all suck in their own way? Or is there another platform that's the good one now?

Google Play Music was perfect for my needs. Once it's closed, I'm going to test Qobuz and its CD-quality streams. It's probably either them or Deezer.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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This, on top of songs disappearing from my playlists, rendered unavailable. I organize everything in foobar now, both local music and streaming playlists with the help of extensions. You can add Youtube sources to your playlists. Even if the links break, you can automatically fix them, keep the name and structure. Have not tried the app versions.

Just give me the fucking mp3 or flac files, subscriptions should be advertised as radio, not a music "library". I've been bitching about the industry burning down my shelves for years now... it's unfathomable how much people rely on these stupid streaming services.

That said, I'd still gladly pay for the music discovery, I just have started to feel cheated out of my money over the years doing so. Should I really be paying $10/month to listen to the same songs I listen to every other month. I don't go on a music collection binge all that often you know.

And then poof, it's gone.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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So if people are hating on Spotify now... ...what's the alternative? People hate Google, they hate Amazon... I remember people used to hate Apple Music years ago because it was missing tons of basic functionality. Is it better? Is Apple Music the "accepted" streaming platform now? Do they all suck in their own way? Or is there another platform that's the good one now?

I'd love to take a super lightweight version of something made by the authors of https://www.bitwig.com.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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It pains me to say it, but music apps on Linux are abysmal. The last one that wasn't completely crap was Amazon 1.4.

Clementine [1] is pretty cool. It does everything I need: - cross-fading between songs - a real queue that is separate from the playlist so you can program what plays next and in which order easily (CTRL+D to add / remove, and a advanced window can show the queue) - a remote control with an Android app - stop after this song - a giant search / filter bar. It does not has to have the focus to start searching, just typ…

I really like Strawberry [1], a fork of Clementine. "It is a fork of Clementine released in 2018 aimed at music collectors and audiophiles."

[1] https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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This, on top of songs disappearing from my playlists, rendered unavailable. I organize everything in foobar now, both local music and streaming playlists with the help of extensions. You can add Youtube sources to your playlists. Even if the links break, you can automatically fix them, keep the name and structure. Have not tried the app versions.

Say, one thing that I really appreciate from Spotify is the weekly playlist. I love discovering music, and it usually has a few songs I end up liking. Does foobar have a module that does recommendations? Or is there a community aggregation-of-playlists out there I could roll my own? I still remember being impressed by the preference-clustering paper in '95 ( https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.1…

Nothing like that I'm afraid. Though I've added m3u links to radio stations and use that for some discovery, alongside bandcamp, reddit, youtube. Personally I find independent radio is underrated, they often save their streams in archives online. Wefunkradio is a good example.

EDIT: incidentally there was a recent Spotify integration component: https://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_spotify , not sure if that still works. It also looks like there was an older one for creating playlists using last.fm.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

#229

This, on top of songs disappearing from my playlists, rendered unavailable. I organize everything in foobar now, both local music and streaming playlists with the help of extensions. You can add Youtube sources to your playlists. Even if the links break, you can automatically fix them, keep the name and structure. Have not tried the app versions.

Just give me the fucking mp3 or flac files, subscriptions should be advertised as radio, not a music "library". I've been bitching about the industry burning down my shelves for years now... it's unfathomable how much people rely on these stupid streaming services. That said, I'd still gladly pay for the music discovery, I just have started to feel cheated out of my money over the years doing so. Should I really be p…

On the plus side, pirating music has never been easier. Just rip the audio tracks from youtube with youtube-dl. Coverage is pretty good and so is the audio quality (I am not an audiophile.) No need to sleaze a private tracker invite off IRC or anything like that.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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Oh man, how do I wish a foobar that runs natively on Linux :(

It pains me to say it, but music apps on Linux are abysmal. The last one that wasn't completely crap was Amazon 1.4.

I use mpv. It's primarily meant as a video player but it works well for music too and even as an image viewer (alternative to 'feh') There is a pretty active community of people writing scripts for mpv (Lua or JS) and it's generally really nice for users with a hacker ethos. I consider it the Emacs of multimedia.

(I wouldn't recommend it for casual users, I tell family members to use VLC.)

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