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FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

#171
This exact problem has prevented me from creating playlists in the first place. I'm a non-iphone Apple Music user, but the same still applies. I have no playlists because I assume I'll lose all that curation work someday. So, I just don't do it.

I wonder how many others are the same way and how that negatively affects their revenue.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

#172
post #48

Funny how they didn't vet the generated content: https://freeyourmusic.com/en/transfer-spotify-to-spotify

We still support migrating to Spotify. We want people to be able to migrate FROM and TO any music service. They get to decide what platform they want to be on. And yes, you can import your songs between accounts on the same platform.

You can even do a Spotify "Liked Songs" to the same account of Spotify as playlist, and then you can finally share the Liked Songs as a playlist to your friends :)

If this sounds interesting feel free to ping me at twitter @bartosz

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

#173

Funnily, they recommend Spotify as the best music streaming platform here: https://freeyourmusic.com/en/blog/best-music-streaming-platf...

That is from February 10th

Yeah but they still linked it in the article "If you wish to migrate out of Spotify, you can move to the following music services...And if you’re still deciding which music provider to choose, take a look at our comparison of the best streaming platforms in 2020." The last sentence is linked to that article that says Spotify is their #1 choice.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

#175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you genuinely unable to see the difference between the two revenue models? I'm really not all that interested in absurd hypotheticals. If I buy a Coke at my grocery store, Coke's getting some of that money. If I buy a Pepsi, Coke gets none of that. I can boycott specific companies while still buying groceries, and again, opting out of food is an issue. If Rogan were an optional premium paid add-on channel on Spot…

> If I buy a Coke at my grocery store, Coke's getting some of that money. If I buy a Pepsi, Coke gets none of that. And if you subscribe to Spotify but don't listen to Rogan, Rogan also gets none of that. If you believe otherwise, please explain how.

> And if you subscribe to Spotify but don't listen to Rogan, Rogan also gets none of that. If you believe otherwise, please explain how.

Rogan's not being paid per stream like song artists are.

If I pay for Spotify, my $10/month revenue goes to pay their expenses. One of those expenses is Rogan's $100M contract.

The mere act of shopping at the grocery store doesn't send money to Coca-Cola. I have to specifically buy one of their products.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

#176
post #34

I'm one of those speak with my wallet kind of people. So when I seen news of this yesterday I wrote into their support saying I was not pleased with it. Their response was some random canned response about how you can still export your data. I'm not a fan of lock in, and I'm even less thrilled about not actually responding to my actual questions and instead giving me some canned BS. I responded back telling them than…

It's a little surprising to me that you'd expect better customer support from a service with >248 million[1] monthly active users. Having worked for/with departments like this, they have to heavily optimise for their response rate, and use as many macros to respond as possible, which's probably your case as I'd assume that many customers contacted them with the same question. By all means, always speak with your wall…

That statement's a little misleading--they only have ~100 million paid users, for whom one would think they'd prioritize support requests.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If companies weren't making millions or billions of dollars in pure profit, I'd be more inclined to agree with this line of thought. But their profit/cost ratios are high enough to offer more customer service than they currently are. And ultimately, it's not the customer's fault that the business is not working from a sustainable business model.

But if there was a profitable model where they offer great customer service wouldn't they? Or at least a competitor would come in who did. I don't believe spotify is making millions or billions in pure profit. Their competitors are able to position their products as loss leaders. I agree some companies could do much better, Google is a massive example, but you still have to remember the scale. Read somewhere, If 0.1%…

> But if there was a profitable model where they offer great customer service wouldn't they? Or at least a competitor would come in who did.

They wouldn't offer great customer service, they'll offer what they feel they can get away with. And there were competitors but they were pushed out (remember RDIO?, good times).

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

#179
This, on top of songs disappearing from my playlists, rendered unavailable.

I organize everything in foobar now, both local music and streaming playlists with the help of extensions. You can add Youtube sources to your playlists. Even if the links break, you can automatically fix them, keep the name and structure. Have not tried the app versions.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

#180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If I buy a Coke at my grocery store, Coke's getting some of that money. If I buy a Pepsi, Coke gets none of that. And if you subscribe to Spotify but don't listen to Rogan, Rogan also gets none of that. If you believe otherwise, please explain how.

> And if you subscribe to Spotify but don't listen to Rogan, Rogan also gets none of that. If you believe otherwise, please explain how. Rogan's not being paid per stream like song artists are. If I pay for Spotify, my $10/month revenue goes to pay their expenses. One of those expenses is Rogan's $100M contract. The mere act of shopping at the grocery store doesn't send money to Coca-Cola. I have to specifically buy…

And if you shop at a grocery store, your money goes to pay their expenses. One of those expenses if stocking Coca-Cola. See how easy it is to make it seem like you contribute to something if you join all capital flows into one big pool?

You have to explain how Rogan would get more money if you subscribe to Spotify, than if you didn't subscribe.

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