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Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by tinco » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 8:05 AM UTC

tomglynch wrote: post #237

tinco wrote: post #104

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We not only don't charge them, our governments actually give them money to do it. The Netherlands actually gave Microsoft 500 million euro in free energy credit (by building them subsidized windmills) just so they would build their enormous data center here, an enormous datacenter that is going to employ only 125 people. And those windmills, they were pitched to the people as being able to power 370.000 households. T…

While this outcome isn't best for the economy, it is a good solution for the environment, and perhaps that was the goal of the Netherlands.

The municipality abused the subsidy to lure in a corporation instead of using it to power homes. It would've been better for the environment if Microsoft paid full dime for their own windmills and the subsidy was spent on something that actually reduced greenhouse gases.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by dzhiurgis » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 10:07 AM UTC

kokey wrote: post #49

op03 wrote: post #15

Facebook is trying to administer a 2 billion member virtual city with about 20k people. Most of the fires that start and actual administration details are just conveniently left to real world politicians, bureaucracies, journos, school boards, parents and police depts to work out. This retarded unsustainable model has been sold as the magic of Scale. Scaling user base = Scaling up issues. No free lunch. Regulators ca…

It's the problem anyone who moderates a system faces, when the users vastly outnumbers the moderators your moderation has to have some level of opaqueness and unpredictability or else you have no chance of keeping up with people gaming the system.

Government gives free lawyers in some cases. Perhaps we could get free access to get support from something like this.

Also it's kinda messed up Facebook can't just add more moderators because it's gonna cost them. They are worth 786b because they decided not to moderate their content enough.

Finally why isn't advertising taxed like oil and cigarettes is? Seems obvious we should disincestivise consumption, but then FED's primary goal is minimise unemployment...

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by aiur » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 10:57 AM UTC

nicbou wrote: post #56

I have experienced this many times. It's unfortunately a sign of the times. One morning, my bank account was frozen by the tax office. It took me two days and many calls to even understand what was going on. There was no warning, no apparent reason why direct debit would fail that one time, but it took me 7 days to get access to my account again. Meanwhile, I couldn't buy groceries. I got a few late payment fees and…

You can’t have your cake and eat it too. If you want a good user experience, pay for it.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by enriquto » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 11:04 AM UTC

thelean12 wrote: post #230

enriquto wrote: post #36

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Do you really need a library for that? Why can't you leave the name as it was entered by the user, without making further assumptions?

Because people will abuse everything. Whether it's curse words or porn websites or whatever.

> Whether it's curse words

I guess most plain english words would be curse words in other languages. Conversely, many plain words and names in other languages will be incorrectly interpreted as english curse words. There's no way to avoid this. Forbidding english curse words would be extremely offensive to people whose name coincides with those words.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by nicbou » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 1:38 PM UTC

aiur wrote: post #253

nicbou wrote: post #56

I have experienced this many times. It's unfortunately a sign of the times. One morning, my bank account was frozen by the tax office. It took me two days and many calls to even understand what was going on. There was no warning, no apparent reason why direct debit would fail that one time, but it took me 7 days to get access to my account again. Meanwhile, I couldn't buy groceries. I got a few late payment fees and…

You can’t have your cake and eat it too. If you want a good user experience, pay for it.

There is unfortunately no alternative in many cases. There is no cloud provider with concierge service, nor any alternative to the dreaded Finanzamt.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by techbio » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 2:21 PM UTC

https://www.thebiglebow.ski/at-least-its-an-ethos

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by stickfigure » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 4:09 PM UTC

throwaway2048 wrote: post #236

stickfigure wrote: post #220

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How many of those washer/dryer units do you think they sold? Hundreds of thousands? If it's a super common model, maybe millions? Google and Facebook each have 3-4 orders of magnitude more customers. I'm not sure manning phones is realistic.

If the problem is too big for Google and Facebook to handle, maybe Google and Facebook shouldn't exist

You have the choice to not use Google or Facebook. What I hear you saying is that you don't like the fact that I'm using Google and Facebook.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by thelean12 » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 5:31 PM UTC

enriquto wrote: post #254

thelean12 wrote: post #230

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Because people will abuse everything. Whether it's curse words or porn websites or whatever.

> Whether it's curse words I guess most plain english words would be curse words in other languages. Conversely, many plain words and names in other languages will be incorrectly interpreted as english curse words. There's no way to avoid this. Forbidding english curse words would be extremely offensive to people whose name coincides with those words.

And these are discussions to be had when developing, including what to do when someone does abuse the lack of curse word filters. Because people WILL abuse it.

The same discussion will also have to talk about whether Mr. SomepornwebsiteDOTcom or Mrs. Hitlerdidnothingwrong are real people and what to do about it.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by thesuitonym » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 6:39 PM UTC

stickfigure wrote: post #257

throwaway2048 wrote: post #236

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If the problem is too big for Google and Facebook to handle, maybe Google and Facebook shouldn't exist

You have the choice to not use Google or Facebook. What I hear you saying is that you don't like the fact that I'm using Google and Facebook.

I think you're losing sight of the argument. People know Facebook and Google don't take customer service seriously, but then seem amazed when they have a problem and Google and Facebook won't solve it. Meanwhile, one side says that these problems could be fixed if big companies wanted to spend some money on it, and others who say it's not a problem because it hasn't inconvenienced them yet.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by adriancr » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:19 PM UTC

tinco wrote: post #251

tomglynch wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While this outcome isn't best for the economy, it is a good solution for the environment, and perhaps that was the goal of the Netherlands.

The municipality abused the subsidy to lure in a corporation instead of using it to power homes. It would've been better for the environment if Microsoft paid full dime for their own windmills and the subsidy was spent on something that actually reduced greenhouse gases.

500 mil$ to get a 2 bil euro datacenter.

The datacente will then create revenue through services and add jobs. Jobs wont be just employees, you're going to have security, shipping, power plant jobs, recycling servers, etc.

It also seems that they'll get some energy from datacenter heat back plus greenhouse heat... so a nice opportunity to do research and create bleeding edge facilities.

It's also credits, as in Microsoft first invests and then gets free electricity for a while...

Then there's a nice national security benefit having datacenter in your country.

So overall a good deal...